Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Brendan Eich
Benjamin Gruenbaum wrote: An annual conference sounds like a great opportunity to discuss design goals of languages and long term goals - I am a much less ambitious man than you. I'm just thinking of small scope examples, to name 3 on top of my head: - The iteration protocol (PHP had a simil

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Benjamin Gruenbaum
An annual conference sounds like a great opportunity to discuss design goals of languages and long term goals - I am a much less ambitious man than you. I'm just thinking of small scope examples, to name 3 on top of my head: - The iteration protocol (PHP had a similar lengthy discussion about som

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Benjamin Gruenbaum wrote: > So, this is something that has been bothering me for a while now. > > The TC, and the mailing list is full of some really smart people. However, > smart people can overlook things too and smart people can spend months in a > debate that

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Alex Kocharin wrote: > People regularly suggest borrowing concepts from different languages here > (we got arrow functions from coffee, generators are from python I believe). > And `@@species` is from smalltalk. (More or less.) Lots of smalltalk influence, actu

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Benjamin Gruenbaum
The problem is that it's not always that the case that the individual working on a particular feature has all the context about the feature in other languages. What I had in mind is a 3 v 3 with languages where you come in with a set of questions about details and design choices in the language wi

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Alex Kocharin
 People regularly suggest borrowing concepts from different languages here (we got arrow functions from coffee, generators are from python I believe). I don't see what more is there to achieve.   01.07.2015, 15:38, "Benjamin Gruenbaum" :So, this is something that has been bothering me for a while n

Re: Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Andreas Rossberg
On 1 July 2015 at 14:37, Benjamin Gruenbaum wrote: > So, this is something that has been bothering me for a while now. > > The TC, and the mailing list is full of some really smart people. However, > smart people can overlook things too and smart people can spend months in a > debate that other p

Cross language discussion

2015-07-01 Thread Benjamin Gruenbaum
So, this is something that has been bothering me for a while now. The TC, and the mailing list is full of some really smart people. However, smart people can overlook things too and smart people can spend months in a debate that other people already thought about. Other languages have open proces