Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-21 Thread David-Sarah Hopwood
On 2010-12-21 18:20, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > Even if this style did become the norm, I don't see why you would argue in > support of mechanisms that allow extension of frozen objects. Isn't the > whole point of freezing to prevent any extensions. why is the fact that > the extension is accompl

Re: I recuse myself (was: Private names use cases)

2010-12-21 Thread David Herman
> I never said I don't want syntactic support. I said I don't like the syntax > you proposed. You and Dave have now both said that you consider this to be > the main issue. Hm, I certainly didn't intend to say that. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to that I said. I don't necessarily ha

Re: I recuse myself (was: Private names use cases)

2010-12-21 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Dec 21, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > The promised separate email: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock > wrote: > > It seems to me, the real point of difference here is whether or not we should > add a syntactic mechanism that supports information hiding i

I recuse myself (was: Private names use cases)

2010-12-21 Thread Mark S. Miller
The promised separate email: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > > It seems to me, the real point of difference here is whether or not we > should add a syntactic mechanism that supports information hiding in the > context of JavaScript objects. Some constituents want th

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-21 Thread Mark S. Miller
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > See below: > > On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock > wrote: > >> I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private >> Names" proposal was to suppo

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-21 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
See below: On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock > wrote: > I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private Names" > proposal was to support "private fields" for objects. While that may be a > goal of som

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-21 Thread Mark S. Miller
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private > Names" proposal was to support "private fields" for objects. While that may > be a goal of some participants in the discussion, it is not what I would > state as the

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-21 Thread Kam Kasravi
(); ________________ From: Garrett Smith To: Allen Wirfs-Brock Cc: es-discuss@mozilla.org Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 11:28:15 PM Subject: Re: Private names use cases On 12/20/10, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-20 Thread Garrett Smith
On 12/20/10, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private Names" > proposal was to support "private fields" for objects. While that may be a > goal of some participants in the discussion, it is not what I would state as > the goal. > > I have tw

Re: Private names use cases

2010-12-20 Thread David-Sarah Hopwood
On 2010-12-20 17:21, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: > I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private Names" > proposal was to support "private fields" for objects. While that may be a > goal of some participants in the discussion, it is not what I would state as > the goal. > >

Private names use cases

2010-12-20 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
I've seen mentions in the recent thread that the goal of the "Private Names" proposal was to support "private fields" for objects. While that may be a goal of some participants in the discussion, it is not what I would state as the goal. I have two specific use cases in mind for "private names