[EUG-LUG:575] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Christopher Maujean
How about calling it a nit? half way between a nibble and a bit... On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 21:48, Christopher Allen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Tim Howe wrote: > > > leaves a 2-bit > > > nibble to use for error correction. > > I thought a nibble was 4 bits... > > That's why he qualified it by ca

[EUG-LUG:574] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Christopher Allen
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Tim Howe wrote: > > leaves a 2-bit > > nibble to use for error correction. > I thought a nibble was 4 bits... That's why he qualified it by calling it a 2-bit nibble (a kinder term for which IMO would be differently word-lengthed nybble {or just nybble | nibbyl | nybbyl | nyb

[EUG-LUG:573] Re: thursday clinic

2001-12-13 Thread Rob Hudson
> On 20011213.1737, Christopher Maujean said ... > > I'd be happy to debate the merits of emacs/vi What's there to discuss... Vim rules! :) -- Rob my @euglugCode = qw(v+++ e--- eug+ bsd+++ gnu+ S+++);

[EUG-LUG:572] thursday clinic

2001-12-13 Thread Christopher Maujean
I am guessing that there is no thursday clinic tonight. or perhaps my procmail is broken. or the eug-lug list is broken. in any case, if there is a meeting or clinic tonight, can someone lemme know at [EMAIL PROTECTED]? If there isn't one tonight, I'd be happy to debate the merits of emacs/vi, di

[EUG-LUG:570] Meeting tonight?

2001-12-13 Thread Christopher Maujean
Is there a lug meeting tonight anywhere in the eugene/springfield area? -- Christopher Maujean IT Director, Premierelink Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.premierelink.com/ 541-344-8575x305 PGP: --- http://www.keyserver.net/

[EUG-LUG:569] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Howe
I thought a nibble was 4 bits... TimH > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > larry a price > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:48 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [EUG-LUG:568] RE: variations on a theme > > > a bit is a bit is a b

[EUG-LUG:568] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread larry a price
a bit is a bit is a bit, no matter how you represent it. The I Ching stuff is just a handy and culturally rich way of representing bits. Plus it gives me a target implementation for new protocols etc. "appearances deceive, see things as they are" most machines represent bytes as 8 || 32 || 6

[EUG-LUG:567] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Seth Cohn
Hmmm... while I'm a fan of the I Ching on some level, the relationship to Linux is iffy at best. Ok ok... so it's binary Fine. grinning, Seth P.S. Does it take less time for a harddrive to write a 0 than a 1? __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Ya

[EUG-LUG:566] RE: Just For Fun

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
Tim Howe wrote: > I would be pretty interested in hearing it. Who is it read by? The ghostwriter, David Diamond, reads it. Next time I attend a EUGLUG meeting, I'll bring it. Unfortunately, that won't be this week. Xmas interferes. -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft soft

[EUG-LUG:565] Re: LFS progress

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
Justin Bengtson wrote: > this package had problems compiling and was never installed. the LFS > documentation says this is an optional package used by patch, and that diff > is more often used nowadays by patch. i decided to forgo ed-0.2 and save > myself a headache. i may try installing it la

[EUG-LUG:564] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
larry a price wrote: > for instance alice and bob want to share secrets, so they agree that they > will use the output of karen's key server for a specific hour or minute > as the input for a key-stream generating algorithm, given that eve has to > catch the output of not only karen's key server

[EUG-LUG:563] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Justin Bengtson
> -Original Message- > From: larry a price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:37 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [EUG-LUG:560] RE: variations on a theme > > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Justin Bengtson wrote: > > > but i have to ask : why have it run hou

[EUG-LUG:562] Re: naive distro questions

2001-12-13 Thread larry a price
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Bob Miller wrote: > larry a price wrote: > > Myself I'm interested in having a CD that's got My workspace and toolset > > on it to the point where I can walk up to any recent model workstation, > > drop a CD in, run a few scripts to get on the network, and go to work. > > Ta

[EUG-LUG:561] Re: Shells vs. Programming Languages

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
larry a price wrote: > Am I unique in thinking that shells are very good for some things > but are not that great as programming languages... Not at all. I defy you to find a million-line software project written in a shell. > I know that for me if a shell script grows longer than a couple of

[EUG-LUG:560] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread larry a price
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Justin Bengtson wrote: > but i have to ask : why have it run hourly or daily? you aren't exactly > asking it any questions... No, I just meant that it would update a stored copy, and then use that to respond to xmlrpc requests for the next hour or so, although there are oth

[EUG-LUG:559] Re: naive distro questions

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
larry a price wrote: > I've been playing with bootable business cards, and there is a script that > allows you to create a bootable cd from _any_ linux distro > it's called Bernhard's Bootable Linux CD and it's available from > http://www.bablokb.de/bblcd/ Geez. Linux is like water. It seeps

[EUG-LUG:558] Re: seti@home -> folding@home

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
Rob Hudson wrote: > I created a EUGLUG group if anyone else is interested in donating > spare computer time to this project. 'Team EUGLUG', Team #668. I'm in for three CPUs. -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAI

[EUG-LUG:557] Re: TCP/IP port list

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Howe
Excellent! Thank you. TimH > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Agthorr > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EUG-LUG:556] Re: TCP/IP port list > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:34:24AM -0800, T

[EUG-LUG:556] Re: TCP/IP port list

2001-12-13 Thread Agthorr
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:34:24AM -0800, Tim Howe wrote: > I used to have a link to a large comprehensive list of ports and what > they were used for, but I seem to have lost it. I can find lots of > lists, but none as full as this one. Anybody have a link to a great > list of ports, what they

[EUG-LUG:555] Re: TCP/IP port list

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Howe
I saw that one too. I have been looking through google all morning. Nothing as good as my old one yet... =[ TimH > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Kahli R. Burke > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

[EUG-LUG:554] Re: TCP/IP port list

2001-12-13 Thread Kahli R. Burke
Tim Howe wrote: >I used to have a link to a large comprehensive list of ports and what >they were used for, but I seem to have lost it. I can find lots of >lists, but none as full as this one. Anybody have a link to a great >list of ports, what they are used for, and what protocols? > >TimH > >

[EUG-LUG:553] TCP/IP port list

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Howe
I used to have a link to a large comprehensive list of ports and what they were used for, but I seem to have lost it. I can find lots of lists, but none as full as this one. Anybody have a link to a great list of ports, what they are used for, and what protocols? TimH

[EUG-LUG:552] RE: Just For Fun

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Howe
I would be pretty interested in hearing it. Who is it read by? TimH > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Bob Miller > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subjec

[EUG-LUG:551] RE: Just For Fun

2001-12-13 Thread Justin Bengtson
i sat down and read the first chapter last time i was in borders. i would highly reccomend it just on the first chapter. it looks to be a good book. > -Original Message- > From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

[EUG-LUG:550] Just For Fun

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
Santa arrived early and gave me an audio book copy of Linus Torvalds', Just For Fun. It's a five CD set. "Not a geek" Anne and I listened to the whole thing in the car driving back from San Jose Tuesday; anybody else want to borrow it and listen? How would I go about donating it to the EUGLUG le

[EUG-LUG:549] Re: naive distro questions

2001-12-13 Thread Bob Miller
Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 10:36:54PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: > > > oh, and don't forget tom's, since you mention single-disk installs > > (tho I prefer bulk crufty-niftiness): > > http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html > > > Interesting, formatting 1.44MB disks at 1.722MB; and a

[EUG-LUG:548] LFS progress

2001-12-13 Thread Justin Bengtson
last night i sat down at @ 6:00 and started working on my LFS project. install medium : 20gb WD0200 (hdb) partitions : hdb1 (ext2, 19.5gb), hdb2 (swap, 500mb) i created an FHS compliant directory structure on (hdb1) and began compiling packages. the LFS manual gives some reason for all of the p

[EUG-LUG:547] RE: variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread Justin Bengtson
larry, that's way kewl. but i have to ask : why have it run hourly or daily? you aren't exactly asking it any questions... > -Original Message- > From: larry a price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EUG-LUG:545]

[EUG-LUG:546] Re: LaserJet 5L Weirdness

2001-12-13 Thread Dennis Soper
On 11 Dec 2001 at 5:40, Bob Crandell wrote: > I would have to agree with your conclusion with items 4 & 5. It's time to > reinstall Windows. ;^) I guess so. That machine's been running for 1 1/2 years, crashing once a day. BTW, I now have a machine that has had several Linux distros runni

[EUG-LUG:545] variations on a theme

2001-12-13 Thread larry a price
Just a bit o' fun with some kicky concepts # #I'm thinking about setting up an # #xmlrpc server to generate a daily or hourly I Ching t h u n d e r w a t e r # #

[EUG-LUG:544] Re: Shells vs. Programming Languages

2001-12-13 Thread Horst Lueck
> Am I unique in thinking that shells are very good for some things > but are not that great as programming languages... Larry, you are not unique, but pretty lonely... To make you feel less lonely, and not the only, I like to share my appreciation for python for such tasks. Maybe at one of those