APC had a unit model name something 500 for about $150 that their powerchute
software for linux was available.
Jim K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Darrough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: [EUG-LUG:2857] Re: UPS recommendations?


> At 07:22 AM 9/18/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >APC and Belkin are good choices.  I use them both.  All Belkins have line
> >conditioning built in.  Belkins go for between $100 - $200 depending on
the
> >battery size.  The electronics are the same in all the ones I've looked
at.
> >I've heard there is software to control the computer but I haven't found
it
> >yet.
> >
> >Any APC that has SMART in the name has line conditioning.  The smallest
Smart
> >APC, I beleive, is the 450.  New is about $250 - $300.  I bought one the
> >other day for $75.  :^)
> >
> >How do you shutdown a computer after the power goes out if the monitor
isn't
> >pluged into the UPS?
>
> Hey Bob. Of course you run a little piece of software that does it for you
> when the battery voltage gets too low. Is there one for Linux for APC yet
I
> wonder?
>
> Regards, Jim
>
>
>
> >Have a nice day.
> >
> >On Tuesday 18 September 2001 01:05, you wrote:
> > > >We get way too many power outages out here in the boonies.  Any
> > > >suggestions for a UPS or place to buy same.
> > >
> > > It all depends on what you are after.  Figure out the exact power
> > > requirements and length of time you would like to figure out how big a
UPS
> > > to get.  I don't remember the formula off hand but most manufacturers
> > > should have that info listed on their web page.
> > >
> > > Personally, I prefer APC products, but I am far from an expert (I only
> > > have one, but I love it (but I don't really like their new case
styling)),
> > > my roomate has 2 MGE's and they seem to work about the same (but are
much
> > > lower capacity).
> > >
> > > If you only need a few minutes, the lower capacity ones I believe you
can
> > > get in the $40-$80 range.  The cost rapidly goes up from there,
depending
> > > on your needs (and features).  My APC 650 pro (I think I paid about
$250
> > > three years or so ago) will run my pentium 120 and a 17" Impressions
> > > monitor for a little under 30 minutes.  A bit more time than most
people
> > > really need but I wanted to make sure I could finish a CD burn if one
was
> > > in progress.
> > >
> > > Things to consider:
> > >
> > > Amount of raw power needed to run CPU, monitor, printer, etc.
> > >
> > > Amount of backup time desired.
> > >
> > > Most UPSes are really only designed to run one system.  Most will have
> > > multiple outlets on the back, but only two of them will be battery
backed
> > > (unless you get one of the industrial rack mounts, but those will cost
big
> > > bucks).  There is a wattage limit on each outlett.
> > >
> > > There are two basic types of UPS, one the system is powered by the
battery
> > > all the time and the line constantly charges the battery the other
uses
> > > line voltage and automatically switches to battery in case of failure.
I
> > > don't remember the pros/cons of each system, I did research three
years
> > > ago when I bought mine but I've forgotten most of it.
> > >
> > > Most software supplied (which will automatically close applications
and
> > > shut down the computer when the battery is nearing exhaustion) is
normally
> > > only supplied for Windoze (big shock huh).  There is third party
software
> > > available for Linux, I've never used any but you might want to check
> > > FreshMeat or somesuch to see what software is available for what
models.
> > > Linux software availability for a specific model might dictate what
you
> > > buy.
> > >
> > > The software communication with the hardware WAS a serial port
connection,
> > > but I believe most newer UPSes have switched to USB (which might be a
> > > problem with Linux if your not running the latest kernel).
> > >
> > > Batteries do go bad and need to be replaced.  My APC book stated that
the
> > > battery pack is good for about two years.  Its been three and my last
> > > test-to-destruction (turn off the line and time how long the battery
> > > lasts, the APC softare does this for me) shows my battery is still
going
> > > strong.  Check to see if the brand you are looking at has some kind of
old
> > > battery recycle program to help keep these things out of landfills.
> > >
> > > The higher end UPSes will have a lot of nifty features and extras
(option
> > > packs, status LEDs etc), for example mine will automatically boost
brown
> > > outs and clip surges.  But if you don't need a feature don't pay for
it.
> > >
> > > Thats about all I can think of off hand, I hope it points you in the
right
> > > direction.
> > >
> > >   /\-/\   Dean Ridgway               |  Two roads diverged in a wood,
and
> > > I- ( - - )  InterNet [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  I took the one less traveled
by,
> > > =\_v_/=  FidoNet 1:357/1.103        |  And that has made all the
> > > difference. CIS 73225,512              |     "The Road Not Taken" -
Robert
> > > Frost. http://www.peak.org/~ridgwad/
> > > PGP mail encouraged, finger for key: 28C577F3 2A5655AFD792B0FB
> > > 9BA31E6AB4683126
> >
> >--
> >Bob Crandell
> >Assured Computing
> >30004 Carol Ave.
> >Eugene, Ore 97402
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >www.assuredcomp.com
> >541-914-3985
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