Re: [Eug-lug] Re: [linux] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Mike Cherba
I would suggest the following: Lack of enforcement of a common linux standard. There is no requirement for a program to be "Linux Certified" so to speak. This allows for the morass of different dependencies that exist even for RPM files meant for a particular distribution. If there was a comm

[Eug-lug] Re: [lug] Re: [linux] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 16:43 -0800, Bob Miller wrote: > Any developer may check in ebuilds for any > package, and if any one developer thinks it's stable, he sets the > keyword. (That's my understanding, anyway.) The minority platforms > are left to catch up as best they can. The result is that st

[Eug-lug] Re: [linux] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Eric Altendorf
On Saturday 15 January 2005 12:21, Bob Miller wrote: > Sigh... Still no perfect distribution. Stepping up a level, let me take a poll: why is it that there is no perfect distribution? 1) Perfect means different things to different people (ok, that's a reason, but broken-ass-crap isn't what *a

Re: [Eug-lug] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
Rob Hudson wrote: > For the rest of us, if we don't use access control lists, are we ok? Run ldd on /bin/ls. If libacl.so is in the list, you are not okay. Re-emerge coreutils, verifying that it builds with the "-acl" USE flag. I also learned from the OSU linux list that after installing a new

Re: [Eug-lug] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Rob Hudson
Thanks for pointing out --newuse. I didn't know that existed. :) I also found this thread about the gcc-3.3.5 upgrade... http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=278673 -Rob Bob Miller wrote: This morning I grabbed my laptop to play a video clip for Anne. I didn't remember the filename, but I ki

Re: [Eug-lug] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Rob Hudson
For the rest of us, if we don't use access control lists, are we ok? Bob Miller wrote: This morning I grabbed my laptop to play a video clip for Anne. I didn't remember the filename, but I kind of remembered when I'd gotten it, so... jetbumper ~> cd /some/distant/dir jetbumper distant/dir>

[Eug-lug] Re: [linux] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
Eric Altendorf wrote: > Stepping up a level, let me take a poll: why is it that there is no > perfect distribution? Heh, heh. (-: First of all, a perfect distribution, even for one person's definition of perfect, is beyond human capability. Our software systems are so complex that they far out

Re: [Eug-lug] cool little hack for OSX python users

2005-01-15 Thread horst
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:20:01 + From: larry price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:28:50 -0800, perdurabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who's developing Python these days? 16 year old MTV drones driving "sooped up" Ford Focuses? "Pimp" has to be the worst (and most ... Hey Mr. smartA#

Re: [Eug-lug] Slow RAID0

2005-01-15 Thread Linux Rocks!
I did that... before I got the raid setup, I tested the drives individually. they came up about 45/MB/s each, raided they come up about 50 MB/s. on the primary ide controller (onboard) I have the 160 gb disk), it does about 56-58 MB/s as a single drive. I have a dvdr on the secondary controller

Re: [Eug-lug] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Mr O
Did Kbob say that?! Yes, Gentoo is a PITA. Thus, I only run it on my gaming box with Slackware everywhere else. Shouldn't that be "no perfect distro for x86?" The potential Mac fan, Mr O. --- Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WTF!?!? > Gentoo is wonderful when it works. Nice, fresh so

Re: [Eug-lug] Slow RAID0

2005-01-15 Thread Mr O
Run hdparm on /dev/hde and /dev/hdg seperately and make sure each drive is set up right. Then bench /dev/md0 again if you make any changes. Could be the cheap controller too. --- Linux Rocks! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > heres the hdparm info: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda > > /d

[Eug-lug] KDE desktop quality survey from umbc.edu

2005-01-15 Thread Max Lemieux
Hey all, Here's a forward from the kde-quality mailing list which may be of interest: From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to kde-quality Subject: Human Aspects of Software Engineering Date: 7:30am (6 hours ago) Dear KDE Users and Developers: We are conducting empirical research on the quality and interface a

[Eug-lug] Help! I can't stop multibooting

2005-01-15 Thread fleming . j
I was irritated at Xandros for automatically rewritting my MBR with it's lilo. So I glibly said to myself well I believe I have outgrown my multiboot stage that was kind of infantile, then today I remembered that I spent $30 to join the SKYOS beta club so I downloaded the release that I missed and

[Eug-lug] Slow RAID0

2005-01-15 Thread Linux Rocks!
So, I have the raid working with the new drives, and new controller, but it seems slower than the single disk. Ive done some looking, and some benchmarking... these are my findings/results. hda is running at ata100 instead of 133 (udma5) hde and g are 133 (controller says so in dmesg), and hdpar

[Eug-lug] F+!*ing Gentoo...

2005-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
This morning I grabbed my laptop to play a video clip for Anne. I didn't remember the filename, but I kind of remembered when I'd gotten it, so... jetbumper ~> cd /some/distant/dir jetbumper distant/dir> ls -tr ls: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.2: cannot open sha

Re: [Eug-lug] Ubuntu CDs

2005-01-15 Thread Mr O
That seems quite an adequate number for the group. --- Tim Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I send you about 50 CD sets and maybe 5 PPC and 5 AMD64, > should that be enough? I can send more if there is a greater > need. > > --TimH > __

Re: [Eug-lug] cool little hack for OSX python users

2005-01-15 Thread Mr O
You completely forgot about "phat"! Who's yo daddy, Mr O. --- perdurabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who's developing Python these days? 16 year old MTV drones > driving > "sooped up" Ford Focuses? "Pimp" has to be the worst (and most > overused) term in the English language, "sweet" coming in

Re: [Eug-lug] cool little hack for OSX python users

2005-01-15 Thread larry price
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:28:50 -0800, perdurabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who's developing Python these days? 16 year old MTV drones driving > "sooped up" Ford Focuses? "Pimp" has to be the worst (and most > overused) term in the English language, "sweet" coming in a close > second. It's supposed

Re: [Eug-lug] cool little hack for OSX python users

2005-01-15 Thread perdurabo
Who's developing Python these days? 16 year old MTV drones driving "sooped up" Ford Focuses? "Pimp" has to be the worst (and most overused) term in the English language, "sweet" coming in a close second. On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:58:50 -0800, larry price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > drop to the shel

[Eug-lug] cool little hack for OSX python users

2005-01-15 Thread larry price
you just got that mac and you open a terminal and load up a python interpreter to do stuff, only to discover that you have no readline support (yech!) drop to the shell and type python `python -c "import pimp; print pimp.__file__"` -i readline restart the interpreter, VoilÄ courtesy of Bob Ippo