Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: > I'd like to see the case happen too. I'm not sure Maxtor would > like to see the case happen but those slim drives SUCK. When it > does happen (not if, as it likey is to take some sort of shape) > then I'll have pictures somewhere. In the meantime, if anyone > pulls one of those crap

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Mr O
I'd like to see the case happen too. I'm not sure Maxtor would like to see the case happen but those slim drives SUCK. When it does happen (not if, as it likey is to take some sort of shape) then I'll have pictures somewhere. In the meantime, if anyone pulls one of those crappy slim Maxtor's from a

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
Jeff_W wrote: > > Q3)Shred sounds excellent for removing all traces of previous > > files, but 25X?, isn't that overkill? > > Thought I'd post this since so many folks referenced 'shred'. I have > no idea how valid this poster's comments are and would be interested > in knowledgeable comments on

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If someone really could do this why would they find it useful to do so? > And can linui read the info? When dinosaurs roamed the earth, it was not uncommon for a disk to develop new bad areas as it aged, so the low-level format was something end users did occasionally t

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 10:53:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Q3)Shred sounds excellent for removing all traces of previous files, but > 25X?, isn't that overkill? > > Q4) I've heard it suggested that 4x through using the dd command to write > zeros through the mbr to the end of the driv

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Neil Parker
John Fleming wrote, >Q3)Shred sounds excellent for removing all traces of previous files, >but 25X?, isn't that overkill? That depends on why you're erasing the drive. If all you want to do is get the previous owner's stuff off so you can use it yourself, then 25X is overkill. Just re-fdisk, re-

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Jeff_W
> Q3)Shred sounds excellent for removing all traces of previous > files, but 25X?, isn't that overkill? Thought I'd post this since so many folks referenced 'shred'. I have no idea how valid this poster's comments are and would be interested in knowledgeable comments on it: (from http://www.oreil

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread fleming . j
"dd writes through the MBR?" The dd command that Neal taught me 2-3 years ago "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=1" has done just that for me many times, I have not actually used it for erasing the body of the disk yet but dd can be used to write write almost (or maybe any) input file to

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Linux Rocks!
On Sunday 27 March 2005 02:53 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : This thread comes close to explaining a few things I've wondered about for : a while plus brings up a new definition for low level formatting that seems : way beyond anything I can see useful. Q1) While I havnt LLF'd a drive in quite a w

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread fleming . j
This thread comes close to explaining a few things I've wondered about for a while plus brings up a new definition for low level formatting that seems way beyond anything I can see useful. Q1) "Important drive information (servo, sector layout, and defect management, etc.) is stored in the

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Jeff_W
Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or I'll take it. I > may build a case out of those crappy ass drives. I've got ten of > them at work to get me started. > LOL - that's a great idea! I would guess that, up to a point anyways, the case would act as a secondary heatsink. Are you planning

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Linux Rocks!
On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:23 am, Bob Miller wrote: : Jamie wrote: : > Hey, it looks like mikes the only one that knows how to answer a simple : > question!!! sheesh if the guy wants to low level format his disk, let : > him. : : I just didn't want to admit that I had no idea how to do it. (-: are

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
Jamie wrote: > Hey, it looks like mikes the only one that knows how to answer a simple > question!!! sheesh if the guy wants to low level format his disk, let him. I just didn't want to admit that I had no idea how to do it. (-: -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft software c

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Jamie
Hey, it looks like mikes the only one that knows how to answer a simple question!!! sheesh if the guy wants to low level format his disk, let him. Also, to those that claim its "Dangerous to low level format" I have one thing to say: "Bleh... whatever dude." Jamie On Sunday 27 March 2005 10:5

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Mr O
Go to Maxtor.com, click on support, software download, disk utilities, PowerMax4. If it's one of those slim Maxtor drives that only come in 20, 30, and 40GB flavors just throw it out now. Or I'll take it. I may build a case out of those crappy ass drives. I've got ten of them at work to get me st

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Bob Miller
nyal wrote: > I have a 20 gig HD that I received as a gift. I'd like to do a Low Level > Format on it to clean it up. Anyone have suggestions on the best way to > achieve this? From what I've read online, Maxtor's LLF.exe is the way to go > but I can't find anywhere to D/L it. It's been fif

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread Jeff_W
larry price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you just want to format it so that you can use the volume, either > cfdisk or parted is what you want. > > > On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 04:04:24 +0200, nyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > I have a 20 gig HD that I received as a gift.

Re: [Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread larry price
If you are looking to destroy the data on the disk so that it is unrecoverable, use shred which should be on your knoppix disk see http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/coreutils_69.html try the following procedure, attach the drive to your pc boot from the knoppix CD open a root

[Eug-lug] Low Level Format

2005-03-27 Thread nyal
Greetings all, I have a 20 gig HD that I received as a gift. I'd like to do a Low Level Format on it to clean it up. Anyone have suggestions on the best way to achieve this? From what I've read online, Maxtor's LLF.exe is the way to go but I can't find anywhere to D/L it. Thanks, Nyal R. C