Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-28 Thread Mike Cherba
Dunno, Last I had heard, Apple didn't buy any GUI stuff from Xerox. As far as I'm concerned the only GUI work that wasn't really Derived from the Xerox stuff that Apple popularized was the ArthurOS stuff from Acorn. Of course, Microsoft ripped that off too. But again, I still suggest that ther

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-28 Thread Bob Miller
T. Joseph CARTER wrote: > then explain why there are dozens > of window managers out there for X11? Surely they can't all be different > sets of icons and graphics--one window manager could do that. There are four hundred thirty-seven different window managers out there for the exact same reason

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-28 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 06:38:57PM -0800, Mike Cherba wrote: > It might be better to state that the original MAC, Like every other GUI > since then was inspired by the work from XEROX PARC. There's been no > real fundamental improvement in interface design since the original > GUIs. Just more bel

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-28 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 01:15:10AM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote: > Joseph, have you ever tried blackbox? [..] > DESCRIPTION >[...] > >Blackbox is similar to the NeXT interface and Windowmaker. Yes. I found it to be not very much like either.

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Cherba
It might be better to state that the original MAC, Like every other GUI since then was inspired by the work from XEROX PARC. There's been no real fundamental improvement in interface design since the original GUIs. Just more bells and whistles. -Mike On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:22

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Linux Rocks!
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:22 pm, T. Joseph CARTER wrote: : On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 09:54:08AM -0800, Allen Brown wrote: : > I don't know didly about the Mac. I showed the new Gnome to a Mac : > owner and he said it was inspired from Mac. That was the extent of : > what I meant by comparing i

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 09:54:08AM -0800, Allen Brown wrote: > I don't know didly about the Mac. I showed the new Gnome to a Mac > owner and he said it was inspired from Mac. That was the extent of > what I meant by comparing it to a Mac. Yes, but nearly every GUI OS in existence today is inspir

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Jeff_W, on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:54:53 -0800: > Allen Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Frankly I'd be happy with a totally blank screen where I > > access all capabilities thru menus rather than icons. > > Heh - this is basically a description of WM2/WMX. --Jeff Enlightenment can do t

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Jeff_W
Allen Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frankly I'd be happy with a totally blank screen where I > access all capabilities thru menus rather than icons. Heh - this is basically a description of WM2/WMX. --Jeff ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Bob Miller
Bill Essig wrote: > I would appriciate it if you would take 2 seconds out of your day to > help me decide on a windows manager. I set up this poll on my site. > Please only vote once. What are the results of the poll? Did any wm have a majority or even a significant plurality? -- Bob Miller

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Tim Howe
Me too. I like OpenBox 3.2. Inspired by Blackbox, but not derived from the Blackbox code tree. XML menus and config. Fast, attractive (as you make it) and no evil icons. I try lots of stuff and always come back to OpenBox. --TimH On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:58:12 -0800 Allen Brown <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Allen Brown
I am interested. I haven't installed Flux yet. But I may get time to try it this weekend. Frankly I'd be happy with a totally blank screen where I access all capabilities thru menus rather than icons. -- Allen Brown work: Agilent Technologies non-work: http://www.peak.org/~abrown/

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Allen Brown
T. Joseph CARTER wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 04:17:27PM -0800, Allen Brown wrote: I didn't vote because I don't have a WM/Desktop that I like. I just have ones I dislike to varying degrees. I used to like Gnome, but they made it like the Mac and removed much of the configurability. Well, sort

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:29:56PM -0800, T. Joseph CARTER wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:19:34PM -0800, Jeff_W wrote: > > > > http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ > > > > > > you typo'd blackbox > > > > And you didn't include WMX - my favorite :/ > > Also no Window Maker. A little taste of NeXT i

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-27 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:52:09PM -0800, Mr O wrote: > There's a few methods of desktop switching in Flux. Desktop > Wheeling allows you to use the scroll wheel on the desktop to > switch (personally, I find that method annoying), wheeling on > the menu/taskbar works too. The standard 'Alt+F1, F2,

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread Mr O
There's a few methods of desktop switching in Flux. Desktop Wheeling allows you to use the scroll wheel on the desktop to switch (personally, I find that method annoying), wheeling on the menu/taskbar works too. The standard 'Alt+F1, F2, etc..' will also get the job done. Not sure how it would work

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 04:17:27PM -0800, Allen Brown wrote: > I didn't vote because I don't have a WM/Desktop that I like. I > just have ones I dislike to varying degrees. > > I used to like Gnome, but they made it like the Mac and removed > much of the configurability. Well, sort of. It was a

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:19:34PM -0800, Jeff_W wrote: > > > http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ > > > > you typo'd blackbox > > And you didn't include WMX - my favorite :/ Also no Window Maker. A little taste of NeXT is good for the soul. Additionally, it's fast, a person with no art talent can them

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread perdurabo
Finder.app :) On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:29:06 -0800, Bill Essig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would appriciate it if you would take 2 seconds out of your day to > help me decide on a windows manager. I set up this poll on my site. > Please only vote once. > > http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ > > -Wi

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 04:17:27PM -0800, Allen Brown wrote: > I've never used fluxbox. What I'm hearing here sounds promising. > I dislike cluttering my screen. Does it allow me to change from > room to room easily? I tend to keep up to 12 rooms, and fill them > fully. yeah, that's one of the

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-26 Thread Allen Brown
I didn't vote because I don't have a WM/Desktop that I like. I just have ones I dislike to varying degrees. I used to like Gnome, but they made it like the Mac and removed much of the configurability. Well, sort of. It was a pain that every few weeks Gnome would forget the configuration I had gi

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread Jeff_W
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:29:06PM -0800, Bill Essig wrote: > > I would appriciate it if you would take 2 seconds out of your day to > > help me decide on a windows manager. I set up this poll on my site. > > Please only vote once. > > > > http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ > > you typo'd blackbox

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread larry price
One shortcoming of the survey is that you are lumping things from different categories together. Desktop environments like KDE and GNOME provide a lot of behind the scenes infrastructure and can be used with a number of different window managers. That said GNOME + Metacity are intended to work tog

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread fleming . j
I voted for fluxbox. I like the desktop to be as clear as possible,with or without some eye candy for a background. Other reasons are that it is very fast, compared to Kde, I haven't used Gnome that much but my impression is that it is a little faster than Kde but slower than Fluxbox. It is as f

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread Mr O
Nice poll but you forgot to ask why. Everyone is going to have a different reason for using different WMs. Personally, I find myself going to Fluxbox no matter what else I try. Why? Because I like hand editing my menu to fit my needs with only the programs I want on it. I like all the space on my d

Re: [Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:29:06PM -0800, Bill Essig wrote: > I would appriciate it if you would take 2 seconds out of your day to > help me decide on a windows manager. I set up this poll on my site. > Please only vote once. > > http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ you typo'd blackbox -- <[EMAIL PRO

[Eug-lug] Favourite WM/Desktop

2005-01-25 Thread Bill Essig
I would appriciate it if you would take 2 seconds out of your day to help me decide on a windows manager. I set up this poll on my site. Please only vote once. http://www.rpgopher.com/poll/ -William E. Essig Gopher Contracting ___ EUGLUG mailing list e