Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
Laura, > Suggestions as to how?  We could recycle the form we used for the > latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which > might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot > stuffer ... We could rise the technical challenge for a voting bot. That would do the

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:31:15 +0200, "Massa, Harald Armin" writes: >Laura, > >> Suggestions as to how?  We could recycle the form we used for the >> latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which >> might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot >>

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Dinu Gherman
"Laura Creighton" : Suggestions as to how? We could recycle the form we used for the latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot stuffer ... I suggest using http://v1.heliosvoting.org which does provide a n

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
> I suggest using http://v1.heliosvoting.org which does >provide a nice, cryp- > tographycally clean and free solution (in Python, BTW). That looks nice. But as much as I understand, the voters have to be defined before they vote. Is that correct, and is it what we want / can use? Harald -- GH

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Dinu Gherman
"Massa, Harald Armin" : That looks nice. But as much as I understand, the voters have to be defined before they vote. Is that correct, and is it what we want / can use? I doubt it can handle that kind of "open voter registration" for a given election. I assume the reason is that it doesn't mak

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Fabio Pliger
2009/10/22 Dinu Gherman > "Massa, Harald Armin" : > > That looks nice. But as much as I understand, the voters have to be >> defined before they vote. Is that correct, and is it what we want / >> can use? >> > > I doubt it can handle that kind of "open voter registration" for > a given election.

Re: [Europython-improve] Questions to send back to the proposal authors before we have the vote

2009-10-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Laura Creighton wrote: > I'm going to tell the original posters of both proposals to go start > work on the clarifications at 21:00 tonight unless somebody tells > me this is a very bad idea. I think all the people who wanted to > comment and make suggestions have done so -- this is a check to >

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Laura Creighton wrote: > Suggestions as to how? We could recycle the form we used for the > latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which > might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot > stuffer ... > > Answers needed by Monday, when I would like the vote t

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Michael Foord
M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Laura Creighton wrote: Suggestions as to how? We could recycle the form we used for the latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot stuffer ... Answers needed by Monday, when I would

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
> I'd much rather have the process be in John's and your hands > rather than trying to come up with some voting scheme, ie. > let everybody who wants to comment, send in their comments and > then you two decide based on your experience. Both proposals and both teams look really great; I would HATE

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Dinu Gherman wrote: > "Laura Creighton" : > >> Suggestions as to how? We could recycle the form we used for the >> latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which >> might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot bot >> stuffer ... > > I suggest using http://v1.he

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Dinu Gherman
"M.-A. Lemburg" : The PSF had a look at this system and consensus was that it has too many problems to be of good use. I'm not related to Helios Voting in any way, but sorry - the above statement is too short and mysterious to be of any real help in this process to me, unless you elaborate on

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Dinu Gherman wrote: > "M.-A. Lemburg" : > >> The PSF had a look at this system and consensus was that it has >> too many problems to be of good use. > > I'm not related to Helios Voting in any way, but sorry - the > above statement is too short and mysterious to be of any real > help in this proc

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Dinu Gherman
"Fabio Pliger" : If there was an "import method" on this app we register automaticaly all the Europython partecipants from the last Edition(s) and any new "request" applied before... the day of the voting? So only more or less "trusted" people can vote... and we [ may ] avoid bots... That's exa

Re: [Europython-improve] Questions to send back to the proposal authors before we have the vote

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:41:24 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: >Laura Creighton wrote: >> I'm going to tell the original posters of both proposals to go start >> work on the clarifications at 21:00 tonight unless somebody tells >> me this is a very bad idea. I think all the people who w

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Dinu Gherman
"M.-A. Lemburg" : It's just a very short summary of a rather extensive test done by various PSF members when the same question came up some weeks ago. There were issues with the browser requirements (Java and JavaScript), people got errors, could vote multiple times (at least it appeared that w

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:11:18 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: >Laura Creighton wrote: >> Suggestions as to how? We could recycle the form we used for the >> latest logo voting, but I think the stakes are higher now, which >> might encourage unethical people to build a vote-for-X ballot

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:16:52 BST, Michael Foord writes: >I don't think anyone minds *you* knowing how they voted and everyone >will trust your decisions. > >Michael I could be the official 'keeper of the votes', and this would certainly be simpler. If a bit more tedious for me, whi

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:02:01 +0200, "Massa, Harald Armin" writes: >That voting solution Dino pointed out allows "bulk upload of emails" >(as Fabio suggested), so we could have without much work a voting >system that allows all known participans from former EPs to vote; and >it is exten

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:38:37 +0200, "Dinu Gherman" writes: >"M.-A. Lemburg" : > >> It's just a very short summary of a rather extensive test done >> by various PSF members when the same question came up some weeks >> ago. >> >> There were issues with the browser requirements (Java and

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Michael Foord
Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:16:52 BST, Michael Foord writes: I don't think anyone minds *you* knowing how they voted and everyone will trust your decisions. Michael I could be the official 'keeper of the votes', and this would certainly be simpler. If

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:02:08 BST, Michael Foord writes: >Laura Creighton wrote: >> In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:16:52 BST, Michael Foord writes: >> >> >>> I don't think anyone minds *you* knowing how they voted and everyone >>> will trust your decisions. >>> >>> Michael >>>

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
I don't think anyone minds *you* knowing how they voted and everyone will trust your decisions. >>I would certainly be very happy with you being the 'counter of the >>vote'. Marc-Andre has also indicated his support (in fact I was just >>+1'ing his suggestion). >>Anyone think it is a *ba

Re: [Europython-improve] Ok, we're going to have a vote next week.

2009-10-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Michael Foord wrote: > Laura Creighton wrote: >> In a message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:16:52 BST, Michael Foord writes: >> >> >>> I don't think anyone minds *you* knowing how they voted and everyone >>> will trust your decisions. >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >> I could be the official 'keeper of the