Re: [EVDL] article: All-electric Porsche Mission E goes into production

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
The link previously posted: http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/12/all-electric-porsche-mission-e-goes-into-production/ ... the Porsche Mission E has been confirmed for production and will arrive in the showrooms around 2020 ... states Porsche is 3 years away from giving it to their dealers.

[EVDL] Coal in Your Stocking

2015-12-04 Thread lektwik via EV
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[EVDL] article: All-electric Porsche Mission E goes into production

2015-12-04 Thread Paul Wujek via EV
http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/12/all-electric-porsche-mission-e-goes-into-production/ -- *Paul Wujek* about ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAn

Re: [EVDL] Melted Battery Post repair

2015-12-04 Thread Roland via EV
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[EVDL] Melted Battery Post repair

2015-12-04 Thread VA7DVR via EV
I spent a bit of time researching this topic and finally stumbled on to the Forklift Industry practices with regards to battery pack construction. I think I/we have a lot to learn from this group. The video link is one I created using the techniques I picked up from the forklift folks. Enjoy --

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Great website Peri, lots of information. Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 8:09 AM > To: Robert Bruninga; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: MP Amber Rudd sez UK grid too weak for 34M EVs

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-MP-Amber-Rudd-sez-UK-grid-too-weak-for-34M-EVs-tp4679027";>EVLN-MP-Amber-Rudd-sez-UK-grid-too-weak-for-34M-EVs-tp4679027.html EVLN: MP Amber Rudd sez UK grid too weak for 34M EVs ] I am hoping some of our UK evdl members (lurke

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs ...

2015-12-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Dec 2015 at 12:22, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Also, I cannot imagine any scenario where a country would suddenly > switch to EVs. It will take *decades* to slowly replace the existing > ICEs. Maybe part of the spasm is engendered by this quotation from the piece: "The Tories´ Election mani

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Typical ignorance Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:46 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Jukka Järvinen via EV
EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20151204/d49db2a3/attachme

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Lee Hart via EV
I assume that most EVs in the UK would be charged overnight at home. Doesn't the UK have the same situation as the USA with there being a large surplus of power at night, and shortages only happen during the daytime? Widespread EV use is generally found to *help* the grid, by leveling power usa

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Dec 2015 at 9:47, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Typical right wing ignorance. No politics please, just the facts. Thanks. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Overall, the electricity use will remain the same or rise a small amount. Many studies have shown this. 1) Compact fluorescent and LED bulbs as well as the move toward other more efficient household appliances will tend to counteract the added load of EVs on the grid. 2) EV's tend to charge

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > The average American 20 mile/day is about > $40 worth of electricity. Wha…? Assume 3 miles per kWh. Rounding up, that’s 7 kWh for your daily mileage. Most places are within shouting distance of $0.10 / kWh for off-peak EV charging,

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Jim Walls via EV
ndex.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.e

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > Though small, It’s a data point we need to include in > our quiver and come up with some numbers... I think focussing on the small fry might be distracting and counterproductive. If you really want to do that sort of thing, you’d hav

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> So, based on averages and some EV assumptions, the gas station uses enough > electricy to charge somewhere between 1 and 2 EVs. That is an absurdly low number. The average American 20 mile/day is about $40 worth of electricity. A wild a$$ gues that the electric bill for a gas station is on the

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> EVs will be very good for the grid…but not because we’ll be shutting down > gas stations. Agreed, completely. But my point was that I have never seen anyone look at this point of view as to what electricity is saved by not moving so much gas around everywhere. Though small, It’s a data point w

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Well, it's not that bad. ICE cars are, perhaps, 20% efficient and EVs around 80%. So you would divide your number by 4. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Ben Goren via EV" To: "Robert Bruninga" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 04-Dec-15 7:11:46 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] UK

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > How much ELECTRICITY does a gas station consume Nowhere near as much as you’re suggesting. As a general rule, Americans use about as much energy on personal transportation as for household electricity, with the cars generally more

Re: [EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That would be interesting information. I'll take a stab at an answer, based on this EIA graph: http://www.eia.gov/beta/MER/index.cfm?tbl=T02.01#/?f=A&start=21 Overall, it shows that commercial uses about 80% the amount of residential (this is a visual interpretation). The figure, from EI

[EVDL] UK grid too weak for 34M EVs (not when we stop pumping gas too!)

2015-12-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
>: MP Amber Rudd sez the UK grid too weak for 34M EVs > BRITAIN’S electric car revolution could trigger blackouts by overloading > our power network, senior Tories fear. Typical right wing ignorance. What happens when 50% of cars are EV's. Then only 50% of the gas stations remain operating. How

Re: [EVDL] EVSE for U.S. Fed. employees!

2015-12-04 Thread robert winfield via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Tweet your way to two days with a UK-Tesla, ends 2016-03-31

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: €5k "The tank" Electric iTrike 1T, no-regen r:100km ts:45kph

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: MP Amber Rudd sez the UK grid too weak for 34M EVs

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla driver reviews Bluecar> slower than Garth’s AMC-Pacer-ice

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] Only You Can Prevent Hoverboard fires

2015-12-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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