[EVDL] EVLN: Daimler's 2008 $50M Smart fortwo contract kept Tesla alive and gave credibility

2016-06-13 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Daimler-s-2008-50M-Smart-fortwo-contract-kept-Tesla-alive-amp-gave-credibility-td4682556.html ] '2017 Smart ForTwo & ForFour EVs to debut 2016/09 at Paris.fr' http://insideevs.com/turns-tesla-actually-made-electric-smart-fortw

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160613

2016-06-13 Thread brucedp5 via EV
ly loses about ... He said that the company had simulated over 500,000 miles on it and ... http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20160613

[EVDL] Ternary Li-ion battery explosions in Hong_Kong.cn Electric buses

2016-06-13 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_business/747326.html Batteries for electric buses become an “explosive” issue for S. Korea and China Jun.8,2016 Kim Kyung-rok [image http://img.hani.co.kr/imgdb/resize/2016/0609/146537388244_20160609.JPG A bus with an electric battery that expl

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: For many years, I have used a "take-out" UPS battery to keep my internet, WiFi and VoIP powered through regular power outages, always floating it to 13.5V... I can second Cor's advice. 13.5v is a good float voltage; better than the usual 13.8v you'll find in most

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
dovepa via EV wrote: Isn't that what a trickle charger does? I know lots of people who leave them on all the time. People mix up "float" and "trickle" chargers all the time. But they are quite different devices. A "trickle" charger delivers a more-or-less constant CURRENT, regardless of the

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: What happens when you might forever overcharge a CAR battery with 30 mA (during daylight). Most car batteries are flooded (i.e. not sealed). If you continuously charge them, once they reach "full" they simply convert the excess charging current into heat and gass

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Lee, I can see that you did not proof-read your mail, or you would have caught - the two zeners are chosen so the sum of the voltages is the desired output voltage *plus* the drop of the diode at the output. For example if you want 13.5V output then the two zeners must have combined voltage of 13.5

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Lee, I can see that you did not proof-read your mail, Thanks, Cor! Egads, I'm typing faster than I'm thinking. Your corrections are all right on the money. :-) - the two zeners are chosen so the sum of the voltages is the desired output voltage *plus* the drop

Re: [EVDL] NHTSA looking int Tesla suspension

2016-06-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
More background on the single genuine complaint (but 30 entries in NHTSA database) http://electrek.co/2016/06/13/tesla-fale-complaints-suspension-nhtsa-kee f-wivaneff/ Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-13 Thread Cal Frye via EV
one. That's 14 x 10' = 140 feet > of wire right there -- far more than the parallel case. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160613/8dab7906/attachment.htm> ___

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
ne to the bottom of the next one. That's 14 x 10' = 140 feet > of wire right there -- far more than the parallel case. -- next part ------ An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160613/8dab 7906/at

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22

2016-06-13 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> a 30ma (peak) PV panel probably can't overcharge the battery Yea, I was going to say that. The internal resistance of the PV cell is likely high enough that it won’t develop more than 13.5 volts, anyway. At that level, the battery has to dissipate only 400 milliwatts, which it should be able

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: That was also my immediate thought (being an engineer) so all I can think is that the solar roofing is directional, like shingles, so you can't flip it around. They could have made two variants though, one with + at top and one at bottom, so you just would have to a

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jan Steinman via EV wrote: At that level, the battery has to dissipate only 400 milliwatts, which it should be able to do without damage under almost any circumstance. You'd be surprised. A good new AGM or gel battery can easily go over 13.8v even with just 5-10ma. It takes a long time to get

[EVDL] [ now, EV conversions forever!] The Incandescent Inferno

2016-06-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
d the charge will further taper. >> >> All the cells had water over the plates, some higher than others, so I now >> have them all topped off. >> >> I know that long-term sulfation is a problem. But these batteries were >> close to charged when they were abandoned

Re: [EVDL] Off-grid solar house and (series//parallel)

2016-06-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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