Re: [EVDL] Tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread Glenn Brooks via EV
Personally I see the contemporary “autopilot by default in all traffic conditions” policy equally as dangerous as the ill fated Pinto Seems like auto manufacturers are taking a good thing and purposely adding an aspect of Russian roulette to the mix - or maybe Blind Man’s Bluff. Sent fro

Re: [EVDL] Tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 May 2021 at 21:08, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > All manufacturing companies are constantly reducing costs, maximizing profits. Right. And when those cost reductions make the product less safe, the long term cost can end up being much higher. And that's just the economic cost. The human

[EVDL] Tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi folks Eliminating Lidar and Radar on Tesla’s 3 and Y is a cost cutting measure. All manufacturing companies are constantly reducing costs, maximizing profits. Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other

[EVDL] Moped makes it 31 miles up mountain.

2021-05-28 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
There is a  video of this model's former configuration...it stalled half way up. The improved model with lithium takes the trip with no problem. Probably the model to get for San Francisco hills.  Lawrence Rhodes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sak5Sfqa0Og ___

Re: [EVDL] tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread Mark Grasser via EV
I'm not sure how to read this. I think you mean brake, not break. LOL. Sorry just really annoyed me this morning. Mark -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Laity-Snyder via EV Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:39 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Mark Lait

Re: [EVDL] tesla now using cameras only

2021-05-28 Thread Mark Laity-Snyder via EV
So how do you determine what has priority using both vision and radar? One of the problems Tesla has is phantom breaking. If you use both, You have a situation where one could be saying go and the other says break. Obviously breaking has to override go to be safe. But then the car can break