On 13 Jan 2024 at 17:19, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
> Let's not assume Tesla's sales success is because it has an unequivocally
> better EV product today.
>
> What it does have is:
>
> -a reliable, easy to use, rapidly growing, DCFC network
True in the US, but not in Europe. For years, Tesla
hardly
need the brakes, even in a Prius or early Leaf, both of which have very
limited Regen capabilities.
For the maximum power scenario, a separate braking pedal is still needed.
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> Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is configured
to
> apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good idea for a smooth
> driving experience. I don't see the brake pedal
Anyone who has driven a Ford model T can certainly attest to the challenges of
having all the controls in the "wrong" locations. (OK, the steering wheel is
the same as modern cars; but nothing else).
The early EVs also had considerably different controls. How about tiller
steering? :-)
The
You're right, Larry, I should be charging big money for these flashes
of brilliance!
Lawrence Winiarski wrote:
Stopgiving...them...ideas
On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:39:14 AM PST, Mr. Sharkey via EV
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Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature.
Stopgiving...them...ideas
On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:39:14 AM PST, Mr. Sharkey via EV
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Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature.
Maybe Tesla will switch the brake and accelerator pedals just to be "unique"?
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Hertz is in business to make money. It is a BUSINESS not a government anti
pollution program.
I did not build my 40 foot long Totally Electric Powered Solar (TEPS)tm boat
for sale or rental.
It would never yield a profit that to allow a company to generate enough money
to pay workers, a design
braking - when used with the (always included)
driver assist package that really, reallydoesn't want you to collide
with the car in front of you.
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release. That doesn't seem like a good
idea for a smooth driving experience. I don't see the brake pedal
disappearing.
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> you've made your bias clear
Oh, I'm not necessarily biased against the vehicles, it's not
arguable that they don't represent the pinnacle of automotive
technology to date. My bias is against the company, which seems to
operate on a very rigid, control-freak centric business plan. That
and
On 1/13/24 11:38, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic
> obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes.
Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the
safe operation of a vehicle right out in plain sight and easily
> As far as I know, all of the Tesla's are available without
> the Full Self Driving and Autopilot software. Since you
> have to pay extra for those features, they are cheaper.
Ah, but you ~are~ paying extra for those features, even if you don't
enable them, as the *hardware* to support them
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:29 AM, Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote:
>
> It would also be nice if Tesla made a non-self driving "Autopilot" less car
> - and sell for less $$.
As far as I know, all of the Tesla’s are available without the Full Self
Driving and Autopilot software. Since you have to
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:38 AM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
>
> Sure, put the setup and deep adjustments behind a screen, but if I want to
> control the heater, radio (I know, obsolete...) or wipers, let me just reach
> for the hardware control and continue to concentrate on driving (I know,
-- Cory Doctorow
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> all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic
> obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes.
Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the
safe operation of a vehicle right out in plain sight and easily
adjusted without requiring the driver to take eyes
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> On 1/12/2024 8:25 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
> > That's been working surprisingly well for him, but that was before the
> > unfolding "Cybertruck" disaster. That hideous, awkward, grossly
> > inefficient lump belongs in a dystopian SF film, not on the road. If
> > he stubbornly carries on
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On 1/12/24 22:25, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
Tesla moved controls to a touchscreen not because anyone asked for them
there, but because Elon Musk himself, stuck in his adolescent science
fiction world, wanted them there.
You might explain your reasoning behind that rather illogical comment.
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