Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-26 Thread Bruce Lawton via EV
One consideration with a clutch is that you can easily overspeed the electric motor when downshifting if you miss a gear or aren’t paying attention. Relying on the synchros protects you somewhat in that case. Bruce > On Feb 26, 2018, at 3:03 PM, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org wrote: > On February

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-26 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Hey John First of all that is one awesome truck! The best Ford EV in my opinion! :-) Since you are only looking for clutch action while rolling I would also suggest an actuator too but maybe something that is air or vacuum driven. I have used electric linear actuators before with a cheap

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-26 Thread Cliff Crabtree via EV
Hi John, For reference I'm using these pictured from ebay: 1992 automatic transmission brake pedal assembly: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/U8oAAOSwqaJaYWUY/s-l1600.jpg 1992 manual transmission combined brake clutch pedal assembly: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/o14AAOSw8-FaVSQR/s-l1600.jpg

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On February 25, 2018 10:33:48 AM EST, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: >On Sat Feb 24 18:46:38 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >>FYI - Down-shifting can be done a lot faster than up-shifting with >just >>synchros, if you "goose" the throttle to bring the motor up to speed >>with

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sun Feb 25 13:15:12 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >https://www.ebay.com/itm/87-91-Ford-Hydraulic-Clutch-Brake-Pedal-Assembly-F150-F250-F350-Bronco-Manual/323080675802?hash=item4b391be1da:g:ri8AAOSwuA1ah8XC=mtr > >Perhaps F-150s had a hydraulic clutch for some years.  More research is

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Cliff Crabtree via EV
My 1987 Pontiac Fiero has a hydraulic clutch the parts are available at "The Fiero Store" - "https://www.fierostore.com/; The parts that might help with this effort are here: "https://www.fierostore.com/Product/Browse.aspx?d=103=1; Hope this helps, Cliff On 02/25/2018 07:40 AM, John

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Cliff Crabtree via EV
from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: John Lussmyer via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Date: 2/25/18 7:40 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: John Lussmyer <cou...@casadelgato.com> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuato

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
[mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 9:00 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Cor van de Water Subject: Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator Hi John,I searched for "hydraulic clutch" and a lot of results and suppliers came up, w

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
0 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: John Lussmyer <cou...@casadelgato.com> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator On Sat Feb 24 17:51:27 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >There are pedals that just operate a hydraulic cylinder, the on

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Feb 24 17:51:27 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >There are pedals that just operate a hydraulic cylinder, the only change >to the vehicle would then be to create a small hole to run a hydraulic >line >to the bell housing where you mount the slave cylinder. So, any idea where I can find

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Feb 24 18:46:38 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >FYI - Down-shifting can be done a lot faster than up-shifting with just >synchros, if you "goose" the throttle to bring the motor up to speed >with the transmission. Easy with a gas engine. Much harder with an Electric Motor and a Z2K

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jay Summet via EV wrote: FYI - Down-shifting can be done a lot faster than up-shifting with just synchros, if you "goose" the throttle to bring the motor up to speed with the transmission. You'll get good at it with practice, too. My ComutaVan was clutcless, and I got good at shifting by ear.

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
FYI - Down-shifting can be done a lot faster than up-shifting with just synchros, if you "goose" the throttle to bring the motor up to speed with the transmission. I have no problem downshifting without a clutch using the "stomp on the throttle a few times to match the motor speed" trick.

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Lussmyer via EV Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 5:37 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: John Lussmyer Subject: Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator On Sat Feb 24 17:20:00 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >I would put in a clutch pedal. Which is a MAJOR non-trivial change. This truck originally

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Feb 24 17:20:00 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >I would put in a clutch pedal. Which is a MAJOR non-trivial change. This truck originally had an Automatic transmission, and the entire pedal-mounting system under the dash is completely different from a truck with a manual transmission.

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread Dale Curren via EV
: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> > Sent: 24-Feb-18 4:40:46 PM > Subject: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator > > My Electric F-150 has a clutch, but no clutch pedal. So I can't actually >> disengage the clutch. I can shift from 3rd to 4th just using the syncrhos, >&

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
eri -- Original Message -- From: "John Lussmyer via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> Sent: 24-Feb-18 4:40:46 PM Subject: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator M

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
ctric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >Cc: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> >Sent: 24-Feb-18 4:40:46 PM >Subject: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator > >>My Electric F-150 has a clutch, but no clutch pedal. So I can't >>actually disengage th

Re: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
;John Lussmyer via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: "John Lussmyer" <cou...@casadelgato.com> Sent: 24-Feb-18 4:40:46 PM Subject: [EVDL] Clutch Actuator My Electric F-150 has a clutch, but no clutch pedal

[EVDL] Clutch Actuator

2018-02-24 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
My Electric F-150 has a clutch, but no clutch pedal. So I can't actually disengage the clutch. I can shift from 3rd to 4th just using the syncrhos, takes 5-10 seconds. This hasn't been a major problem, but there are times when I would like to shift down, and that can be difficult and slow.