Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform > On Jul 29, 2016, Cor van de Water wrote: > > I did not know you need to be a tech junkie > to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message > "You must keep your hands on t

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
2016 6:35 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform I was just having that conversation at work during lunch yesterday. A friend said he rented a big SUV and it had collision assist. He s

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread paul dove via EV
I was just having that conversation at work during lunch yesterday. A friend said he rented a big SUV and it had collision assist. He said if you tried to change lanes without the blinker it would jerk you back in the lane. He said it almost made he hit someone a couple of times so he had to tur

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
> On Jul 29, 2016, Cor van de Water wrote: > > I did not know you need to be a tech junkie > to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message > "You must keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times > and take over the driving as needed" > when you engage "autopilot”. > In response

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I did not know you need to be a tech junkie > to understand and confirm the on-screen warning message > "You must keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times > and take over the driving as needed" > when you engage "autopilo

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
, July 29, 2016 3:40 PM To: Willie2; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > On 07/29/2016 08:00 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > On 07/29/2016 08:00 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > >> Trying to jump the gun, or even worse, calling what we have now >> "autopilot" >> is beyond idiotic. I have a great deal of respect for Elon Musk, but that >> is the stupidest thing

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/29/2016 08:00 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: Trying to jump the gun, or even worse, calling what we have now "autopilot" is beyond idiotic. I have a great deal of respect for Elon Musk, but that is the stupidest thing I've seen him do. Have you driven a Tesla with AutoPilot? ___

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-29 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
I'm against SDVs now, but I also disagree they are a dead end. The problem here is that it's just plain stupid to try to go from zero autonomy to full autonomy in one rapid sweep. Not only is the tech not ready, the public isn't ready. This is a huge change, and we humans aren't well suited to h

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-28 Thread Paul Dove via EV
LOL! See its started already Sent from my iPad > On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:40 PM, Chris Meier via EV wrote: > > Stop blaming Tesla, the vendors equipment doesn't look that high. US trucks > should have guards, put your energy there, please. > -Chris > -- > -Chris > >> On July 27, 2016 2:05:0

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-27 Thread Chris Meier via EV
Stop blaming Tesla, the vendors equipment doesn't look that high. US trucks should have guards, put your energy there, please. -Chris -- -Chris On July 27, 2016 2:05:05 PM CDT, Collin Kidder via EV wrote: >I agree, people can be dangerous. If we could figure out the software >I think self dri

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-27 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This discussion is technically off-topic for the EVDL, but it seems to strike a chord every time it comes up. At least this time it's in connection with an EV, the Chevrolet Bolt (or is it now BoltEV?). At least here in the US, people barely tolerate human error. That's why we have so many la

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-27 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
According to https://seriousaccidents.com/legal-advice/top-causes-of-car-accidents/ the #1 reason for an accident is distracted driving. In this case that would seem to be the cause. It is certainly clear that the technology involved might have increased the chance that the driver felt they d

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-27 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
I agree, people can be dangerous. If we could figure out the software I think self driving cars could be really safe. And, they'd be faster too because the road could be run with very little gap between cars so long as all of the cars are communicating and the cars are self driving. But, being a so

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-27 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
t;>> Tesla leaves the responsibility on the driver and I'm not sure it >will ever move away from that model. >>> >>> >>> From: Peri Hartman via EV >>> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 1:09 PM &

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread paul dove via EV
s the insurance > companies offer them $5 less a month on their auto insurance :) > Damon > >> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:15:04 + >> To: pe...@kotatko.com; ev@lists.evdl.org; ev@lists.evdl.org >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a dr

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread paul dove via EV
onomous vehicle will change their minds as soon as the insurance >> companies offer them $5 less a month on their auto insurance :) >> Damon >> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:15:04 + >>> To: pe...@kotatko.com; ev@lists.evdl.org; ev@lists.evdl.org >>&

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
er >> trust an autonomous vehicle will change their minds as soon as the insurance >> companies offer them $5 less a month on their auto insurance :) >> Damon >> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:15:04 + >>> To: pe...@kotatko.com; ev@lists.evdl.org; ev@lis

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread Peter C. Thompson via EV
5:04 + To: pe...@kotatko.com; ev@lists.evdl.org; ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform From: ev@lists.evdl.org The thing is Peri, There are so many possibilities while driving how can one ever test software enough to

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread damon henry via EV
om; ev@lists.evdl.org; ev@lists.evdl.org > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless > (autonomous) Lyft platform > From: ev@lists.evdl.org > > The thing is Peri, > There are so many possibilities while driving how can one ever test software

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread paul dove via EV
ly careful drivers. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 26-Jul-16 10:57:17 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform >Hi Paul, &g

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
From: "Cor van de Water via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 26-Jul-16 10:57:17 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform Hi Paul, No problem - you are free to disagree. I predict that w

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless (autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Hi Paul, No problem - you are free to disagree. I predict that within 10 years nobody wants to deal with all those distracted drivers who are trying to drive while also staying in contact with their family, answering customers and colleagues and keeping their Facebook status updated. (Almost) ev

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-26 Thread brucedp5 via EV
As Cor posted, Google's nEV is a R&D platform, see https://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ Google Self-Driving Car Project To start, we're building prototype vehicles that are designed to take you where you want to go at the push of a button—no driving required. Watch video ... Goog also has an aut

[EVDL] Fwd: EVLN: GM's 1st 200mi EV will launch as a driverless(autonomous) Lyft platform

2016-07-25 Thread paul dove via EV
While technically Google cars can drive around they only travel a max speed of 25mph. They are intended as couriers and they aren't for sale as far as I know. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev