Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Lee, I can see that you did not proof-read your mail, Thanks, Cor! Egads, I'm typing faster than I'm thinking. Your corrections are all right on the money. :-) - the two zeners are chosen so the sum of the voltages is the desired output voltage *plus* the drop

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?) Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > For many years, I have used a "take-out" UPS battery > to keep my internet, WiFi and VoIP powered through regular power > outages, always floating it to 13.5V... I can second Cor&#

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: What happens when you might forever overcharge a CAR battery with 30 mA (during daylight). Most car batteries are flooded (i.e. not sealed). If you continuously charge them, once they reach "full" they simply convert the excess charging current into heat and gass

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
dovepa via EV wrote: Isn't that what a trickle charger does? I know lots of people who leave them on all the time. People mix up "float" and "trickle" chargers all the time. But they are quite different devices. A "trickle" charger delivers a more-or-less constant CURRENT, regardless of the

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: For many years, I have used a "take-out" UPS battery to keep my internet, WiFi and VoIP powered through regular power outages, always floating it to 13.5V... I can second Cor's advice. 13.5v is a good float voltage; better than the usual 13.8v you'll find in most

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
ject: Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?) On 12 Jun 2016 at 5:28, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > I added an unregulated solar panel that typically produces only 30 mA to a > very remote cabin car battery deep in the woods. The charge rate will give a > 2 hour pe

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-12 Thread dovepa via EV
t: Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?) New question. What happens when you might forever overcharge a CAR battery with 30 mA (during daylight). I added an unregulated solar panel that typically produces only 30 mA to a very remote cabin car battery deep in the woods.  The c

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Float voltage is likely higher than 13.5V but you should see what the manufacturer says. Keep it below the float voltage rec, at 30mA (the current for two bright LEDs and 0.4W) you are likely not harming. It is correct that when charged excess generates heat and gassing. If you are ever concerned

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-12 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Jun 2016 at 5:28, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > I added an unregulated solar panel that typically produces only 30 mA to a > very remote cabin car battery deep in the woods. The charge rate will give a > 2 hour per week use of the lights. > > But what happens if no one uses the cabin for

Re: [EVDL] Lead Acid charging...(trickle overcharging?)

2016-06-12 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
New question. What happens when you might forever overcharge a CAR battery with 30 mA (during daylight). I added an unregulated solar panel that typically produces only 30 mA to a very remote cabin car battery deep in the woods. The charge rate will give a 2 hour per week use of the lights. But