Hi Paul,

 

The Prius & Prius Prime gets 50mpg (for the last 165K miles avg).  Is 260W/hr 
per mile or 3.85 miles per KWH at the AC outlet?  Sounds about right for a 
Tesla-3, a bit heavier than a 2800 Spark (I get 5 miles per KWH or 200W/hr per 
mile, the heavier Leaf is 4.3 miles per KWH or 232W/hr per mile but that's on 
the DC car gauge).  You have to measure your watt hours used at the AC outlet, 
quite a bit more after charging-inverter/battery inefficiencies.  

 

 

Have a Renewable Energy Day,

Mark

 

Mark E. Hanson

184 Vista Lane

Fincastle, VA 24090

540-473-1248-H

540-816-0812-C

www.REEVAdiy.org  - Community Service RE & EV's

 

 

 

From: paul dove [mailto:dov...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 5:40 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: Mark Hanson
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Road Trips: plugin vs EV cost per mile

 

So, you don't plug your Hybrids in at all? 

 

I have heard the Prius gets relatively poor mileage until the engine warms up.  
  During this warmup time, it gets about 35 to 40 miles per gallon.  If your 
driving consists of purely short, say five mile, trips - you will not get 50 
miles per gallon.

 

You can also get less than 50 miles per gallon by driving very fast, over 73 
miles per hour. Obviously, if you drive very aggressively the mileage will also 
suffer.

 

What about a hilly area does it get 50 miles per gallon?

 

I have a Tesla model 3 and I get on average 260Wh/mile.  I drove from Alabama 
to New Orleans 435 miles and it cost me 38.46 on Tesla Superchargers. 8.8 cents 
a mile. But like others have said it is only the second long trip and I have 
had the car for over a year. Most of the time I charge in the garage at 10 
cents a KWh.

 

 

 

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 9:06:33 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: 

 

 

Hi folks

It seems that it's cheaper for taking long road trips to buy a Prius Prime vs a 
pricier Tesla or Bolt with a 60kwh battery pack and pay an average of 28c per 
kWh average on the road at level 3 fast charging stations.  We have shorter 
range cheaper EVs (Spark bought 1 year old for $14k and Leaf $9.2k). At $3 a 
gallon/50 = 6c per mile and at 28c per kWh / 4 (ac meas)= 7c per mile in a long 
range EV (also have to pay $40k for the car with the 60kwh or so battery pack). 
Maybe it's better for the environment to drive a long range EV but for your 
wallet the Prius Prime and a shorter range EV for 90% miles local trips makes 
more sense.  

Have a renewable energy day,

Mark

Www.Reevadiy.org

 

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