Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-19 Thread ken via EV
I understand with a BMS that as per > cell voltage is reached shunts/resisters are used, what happens when the > pack is fully charged without a smart signal to the charger? Do the > shunts just continue to work absorbing charge/ generating heat? My charger is set to be the right voltage but t

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-19 Thread Dan Baker via EV
This might be what we are looking for? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Voltage-Detection-Relay-Switch-Control-Module-Digital-LED-Display-DC-12V-E2O2/392218823066?hash=item5b5210499a:g:cRkAAOSw-yJcQVCH On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:14 PM ken via EV wrote: >I understand with a BMS that as per > > cell v

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
ken via EV wrote: My charger is set to be the right voltage but the old cells being 22 in series string they need to equalized out at the top/end of the charge. this requires some battery baby sitting, if your cells are staying very well balanced then your voltage cut off method/gadjet may be go

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread Steve Heath via EV
Wise words indeed. The price of a BMS is so cheap these days that it is almost inconceivable not to fit one. Steve On 22/03/2019 06:42, Lee Hart via EV wrote: ken via EV wrote: My charger is set to be the right voltage but the old cells being 22 in series string they need to equalized out at

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Thanks guys for the information. Ken and I are reaching out for help so don't spank us yet for putting in something dangerous lol. In my case, where I plan to use a BMS but want to reuse a lead charger, a BMS and voltage cut-off so the charger doesn't just send amps to the shunts when all cells r

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Dan Baker via EV wrote: Thanks guys for the information. Ken and I are reaching out for help so don't spank us yet for putting in something dangerous lol. Hi guys, I'm not trying to "spank" anyone. Just get them to look before they leap! Did you ever have a (usually teenage) friend say, "Hold

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Doesn't somebody have to die for a Darwin award? On Friday, March 22, 2019, 11:44:25 AM CDT, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Dan Baker via EV wrote: > Thanks guys for the information. Ken and I are reaching out for help so > don't spank us yet for putting in something dangerous lol. Hi guys,

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This is kind of long (I tend to run on, sorry). Please bear with me and I'll eventually come to the point. I'm sort of the electronics equivalent of a shadetree mechanic. I've hacked (in the good sense) electronics since I was a teenager. ICs weren't really available to hobbyists then. My e

Re: [EVDL] plusing charger controller / no bms

2019-03-29 Thread Paul Compton via EV
Any charger has internal sensing of its output voltage. This is nearly always in the form of a resistor divider network. If you place an additional resistor in parallel with one of the sensing resistors, you can influence the voltage that the charger 'sees'. Raise the apparent voltage high enough