RE: where do copies come from?

2005-07-08 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: I find it hard to believe that something as stable as memories that last for decades is encoded in a way dependent on ionic gradients across cell membranes and the type, number, distribution and conformation of receptor and ion channel proteins. What evidence is there

Re: The Time Deniers and the idea of time as a dimension

2005-07-08 Thread chris peck
Hi Stephen; I have a couple of quesitions. Emulations involve some notion of a process and such are temporal. The idea that a process, of any kind, can occur requires some measure of both transitivity and duration. The mere *existence* of a process only speaks to its potential for

Re: The Time Deniers and the idea of time as a dimension

2005-07-08 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Chris, Thank you for this post! Interleaving... - Original Message - From: chris peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:34 AM Subject: Re: The Time Deniers and the idea of time as a dimension Hi Stephen; I

RE: where do copies come from?

2005-07-08 Thread Jesse Mazer
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Recent theory based on the work of Eric Kandel is that long term memory is mediated by new protein synthesis in synapses, which modulates the responsiveness of the synapse to neurotransmitter release; that is, it isn't just the wiring diagram that characterises a

RE: The Time Deniers

2005-07-08 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Lee Corbin writes: But it is *precisely* that I cannot imagine how this stack of Life gels could possibly be thinking or be conscious that forces me to admit that something like time must play a role. Here is why: let's suppose that your stack of Life boards does represent each generation of

Re: The Time Deniers

2005-07-08 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: I will be unable to reply for several weeks. Hal Ruhl At 06:16 PM 7/7/2005, you wrote: Dear Hal, let me know if my (naive) worldview on Stephen's question is compatible with what you wrote (below): (to1: I don't know what to do with all possible because it is far beyond any idea we

Re: where do copies come from?

2005-07-08 Thread George Levy
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Recent theory based on the work of Eric Kandel is that long term memory is mediated by new protein synthesis in synapses, which modulates the responsiveness of the synapse to neurotransmitter release; that is, it isn't just the "wiring diagram" that characterises a

Re: The Time Deniers

2005-07-08 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Hal, Please forgive my delay in replying. - Original Message - From: Hal Ruhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: The Time Deniers Hi Stephen: At 03:03 PM 7/7/2005, you wrote: Dear Hal, Which is primitive

RE: The Time Deniers

2005-07-08 Thread Lee Corbin
Stathis writes Lee Corbin writes: But it is *precisely* that I cannot imagine how this stack of Life gels could possibly be thinking or be conscious that forces me to admit that something like time must play a role. Here is why: let's suppose that your stack of Life boards does

Re: The Time Deniers

2005-07-08 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Stephen: I will not be able to fully respond for a few weeks. The idea of Being having a pulse width in the dimension of closely coupled states such that several successor states simultaneously have a degree of Being is new to my understanding of my model but still inherent in my model