Oops, it seems I got my threads crossed! I do agree that the book *exists* even
if it isn't read, or never will be read.
Stathis
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Brent Meeker writes (quoting Stathis Papaioannou and Lee Corbin, respectively):
Yet another thought experiment for your consideration. You are
offered the option of 10 years of normal life, or being cloned
20 times with each clone living one year. I would choose the
10 years; if I chose
William
S. Cooper says: The absolutist outlook has it
that if a logic is valid at all it is valid period. A sound logic is completely
sound everywhere and for everyone, no exceptions! For absolutist logicians a
logical truth is regarded as true in all possible worlds, making
logical laws
Lennart:
J.Cohen and I.Stewart in their chef d'oeuvre Collapse
of Chaos play around with aliens who they call
Zarathustrans, and who display a different 'alien'
logic. It is quite refreshing. You say: Sound? brings
up the tune of the Latin maxim:
mens sana in corpore sano assigning the 'mental'
We are a quite sinple system (depicted in 3+1 D), so
our logic is also pretty simple (one-way pragmatic).
Actually Cooper shows that even our simple system is not classically
logical...
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DearBruno,You have, more than once, referred
to somethingI (jokingly) said a month ago:
"I've endured this thread long enough! Let's get
back to something I can understand!"
I said this because I am hungry for more informed
speculation on "Why does anything exist?" and related questions.
Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Norman,
Le 20-juin-06, 04:04, Norman Samish a crit :
I've endured this thread long
enough! Let's get back to something I can understand!
My background is more engineering and physics than mathematics and I do
share some of Norman misgivings.
Dear Lennart,
I did not read Cooper's argumentation, but would like to learn (I don't
believe he explained that) with what kind of logical system is he capable of
thinking except for the ONE which our mind provided - within the
circumstances and evolutionary process (I call the 'history' of
Brent:
to your 2nd question:
The question is, have you ever formed any conclusions or had any thoughts
that were *not* model based.
I have to go back to (my) 'model' vs. your remark:
The very point of using the word model is to remind us that they are
not reality itself, but only a map of
John M wrote:
Dear Lennart,
I did not read Cooper's argumentation, but would like to learn (I don't
believe he explained that) with what kind of logical system is he capable of
thinking except for the ONE which our mind provided - within the
circumstances and evolutionary process (I call
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Indeed, I would personally find the idea of clones of myself that I could run
into quite
disturbing, and the more like me they were, the worse it would be.
A sobering reflection. ;-)
Brent Meeker
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Interesting notion. I recently read a science
fiction story set in the distant future where people could be replicated at
will. In the story, it was not uncommon to meet one's clone. The
cloneswere treated as separate individuals- perhaps analogous to how
identical twins are treated in our
We can all agree, I think, that many among us humans are irrational. What's
more, many are obsessed with killing others who don't agree with them. The
Conquistadors who killed the Aztecs and Incas because God wished it so and
the radical Muslims who kill the infidels because God wishes it so
Norman Samish wrote:
We can all agree, I think, that many among us humans are irrational. What's
more, many are obsessed with killing others who don't agree with them. The
Conquistadors who killed the Aztecs and Incas because God wished it so
They subjugated the Aztecs and Inca for king
Hi Brent,
You say, "They (the Spanish)subjugated the Aztecs
and Inca for king and gold. European disease may have killed a lot
ofthem, but killing them off was not a purpose of the conquistadors -
though they were certainlyrevolted by the bloody sacrificial rites of the
Aztecs."I am
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