Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-12 Thread Mohsen Ravanbakhsh
*Why? "Mathematical" means nothing but not self-contradictory. Sherlock Holmes stories are mathematical. That doesn't mean Sherlock Holmes exists in some Platonic realm. * Brent, What do you mean by that? I do not get your point. Anyway I do not insist that it should be realizable. But I have

Re: JOINING post

2007-03-12 Thread 明迪
Dear John, I feel I understand your view and distinction of "origination point" and "origination". "Origination" is entailment of "origination point". "Origination point" is part of our world ("the item to be originated"). Is that correct? Now, my opinion is that there is no "origination" of the

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-12 Thread Brent Meeker
Mohsen Ravanbakhsh wrote: > /All actual measurements yield rational values. Using real numbers in > the equations of physics is probably merely a convenience (since > calculus is easier than finite differences). There is no evidence that > defining an instantaneous state requires uncountable

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Brent Meeker
Tom Caylor wrote: > On Mar 6, 5:19 pm, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Tom Caylor wrote: A source that has given us the crusades and 9/11 as well as the sister's of mercy. No a very sufficient source if nobody can agree on what it provides. >>> I don't like simply saying

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread John M
Thanks, Russell, 4 Poles may play bridge. John - Original Message - From: Russell Standish To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re: The Meaning of Life On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:58:58AM -0400, John Mikes wrote: > In the sci-

Danny's God (was: Meaning of Life)

2007-03-12 Thread John Mikes
Sorry, Danny, for my convoluted style. Also, for having missed you 'original' explanation of (your) God. I try to concentrate on SOME of the texts, it is getting too much indeed, to memorize week long postings of many.contributors.. You wrote: ---

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:58:58AM -0400, John Mikes wrote: > In the sci-fi I wrote in 1988-89 I depicted the 'story' of human evolving as > done > by an experiment of aliens from another universe, to which I assigned > "energy" > with 3 (three) poles. One +, one -, and a THIRD one. (Maybe your ma

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread John Mikes
Let me reverse the sequence of your post for my ease: The last part: "> If we accept Bruno's "we are god"< ">I have never said that. The most I have said in that direction, is that, assuming comp, the first person inherits "God"' unanmeability. So the first person has some "god" attribute. you cann

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument - and Thanks and a dumb question.

2007-03-12 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
OK, but it seems that we are using "reductionism" differently. You could say that a hydrogen atom cannot be reduced to an electron + proton because it exhibits behaviour not exhibited in any of its components; or you could say that it can be reduced to an electron + proton because these two compone

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument - and Thanks and a dumb question.

2007-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 11-mars-07, à 17:56, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : > Reductionism means breaking something up into simpler parts to explain > it. What's wrong with that? Because, assuming comp, neither matter nor mind (including perception) can be break up into simpler parts to be explained. That is what

Re: The Meaning of Life

2007-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 11-mars-07, à 17:33, John M a écrit : > Still: human thinking. You should subscribe to some alien list, if you are annoyed by us being human. You can answer "human thinking" to any (human) post. So this does not convey any information, unless you explain what in our human nature prev