On Jun 7, 3:54 pm, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Evolution has not had a chance to take into account modern reproductive
technologies, so we can easily defeat the goal reproduce, and see the goal
feed as only a means to the higher level goal survive. However, *that*
goal is
Hi,
2007/6/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Jun 7, 3:54 pm, Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Evolution has not had a chance to take into account modern reproductive
technologies, so we can easily defeat the goal reproduce, and see the goal
feed as only a means
On Jun 7, 7:50 pm, Quentin Anciaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to disagree, if human goals were not tied to evolution goals
then human should not have proliferated.
Quentin- Hide quoted text -
Well of course human goals are *tied to* evolution's goals, but that
doesn't mean they're
Bruno Marchal skrev:
Le 04-juin-07, 14:10, Torgny Tholerus a crit :
Pain is the same thing as the pain center in the brain
being
stimulated.
If you are really unconscious or not conscious, you could say this,
indeed, but I hardly believe you are unconscious.
In the best case your
On 6/7/07, Torgny Tholerus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the philosophical term for persons like me, that totally deny the
existence of the consciousness?
(I also deny the existence of infinity...)
Um, refreshingly rational? Pleasingly parsimonious? :-)
- Jef
Hello,
like I said before you are just turning the meaning of consciousness to mean
whatever you think you're not.
Knowing something implies consciousness, if you're not conscious, you
can't know anything.
Quentin
On Thursday 07 June 2007 15:47:35 Torgny Tholerus wrote:
Bruno Marchal
As we said it in Hungary: let the 'bartender' talk into it...
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I feel it is a vague metaphor to have 'brain centers stimulated'- HOW? - as
persuaded them to do something? There are physiologic activities translated
(somewhere, somehow) into mental events and so far we know(?) about electric
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 07/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Evolution doesn't care about the survival of individual organisms
directly, the actual goal of evolution is only to maximize
reproductive
Brent Meeker wrote:
The top level goal implied by evolution would be to have as many
children as you can raise through puberty. Avoiding death should
only be a subgoal.
It should go a little further than puberty--the accumulated wisdom of
grandparents may significantly enhance the survival
On 08/06/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The top level goal implied by evolution would be to have as many children as
you can raise through puberty. Avoiding death should only be a subgoal.
Yes, but evolution doesn't have an overseeing intelligence which figures
these things out,
Colin
like the functionality of a scientist without involving ALL the
functionality (especially qualia) of a scientist must be based
on assumptions - assumptions I do not make.
Russel
I gave a counter example, that of biological evolution. Either you
should demonstrate why you think
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