Re: Newbie Questions

2009-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2009, at 04:10, fragamus (Michael Gough) wrote: > > I would like to ask the board: > > Are ALL possible quantum histories realized in the multiverse? I would say yes. Even as the superposition states of the vacuum. Note that all computational histories are in Arithmetic, or are obs

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Jan 2009, at 06:38, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> Are you stopping at UDA step 1? > > No. There's a difference between your idea of running a world and > making a copy > of me within this world. I think the latter will necessarily incur > a gap in my > consciousness because of the need

Re: Newbie Questions

2009-01-18 Thread A. Wolf
> So you are saying the mass of the universe is infinite. I mean the number of particles is infinite (mass is a characteristic of some particles). It is still possible it could be finite but unbounded, and just extremely extremely large, but unless there's a logical reason it would appear per

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-18 Thread Kim Jones
On 18/01/2009, at 4:38 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> I have no doubt that digital mechanism and materialism are >> incompatible, >> though. > > Is that because, under materialism, consciousness depends on causal > links? > > Brent > > supernatural causal links enter the hand wavers Kim

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-18 Thread Quentin Anciaux
I should add that in the case of the digital version, as I said earlier, the causal link is in no way the physical computer, but the program and its state. 2009/1/18 Quentin Anciaux > > > 2009/1/18 Brent Meeker > > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >> > >> > On 15 Jan 2009, at 22:50, Brent Meeker wrote:

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-18 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2009/1/18 Brent Meeker > > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 15 Jan 2009, at 22:50, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > >> > >> Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> > >>> On 14 Jan 2009, at 18:40, Brent Meeker wrote: > >>> > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > 2009/1/14 Brent Meeker >