2009/2/24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
From a logical point of view Shoemaker is right. You can say no for
many reasons to the doctor.
The copy will not even behave as you.
The copy will behave like you, but is a phi-zombie.
The copy behaves like you and as a
On 24 Feb 2009, at 03:04, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
2009/2/24 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
I tend to agree with Quentin that memories are an essential
component of
personal identity. But that also raises a problem with ideas like
observer moments and continuity. Almost all
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, this seems to be the real point of disagreement between you and the
pro-QI people. If I am one of the extra versions and die overnight, but the
original survives, then I have survived. This is why there can be a many to
I noticed someone taking my name in vain. ;) (though experiment where
I, Tom, am a clone of Will Riker) The magic of thought experiments,
it's amazing. I felt my measure decrease, but only after I read the
thought experiment.
I trust this will not derail anyone's personal identity here, but I
Sorry, Stathis:
to your #1 reply: are you equating mind and soul? That would solve a lot of
problems (without making sense for many).
to your #2 reply:
artifact free choice of whatever seems 'best'. You might be yearning for
being a much 'better' person in many respects. Makes no sense.
John M
Jack, welcome back. I no longer read every post here, but I read this post
and found your positions pretty close to my own. This one, especially, I
totally agree with:
The important thing to realize is that _definitions don't matter_!
Predictions, decisions, appropriate emotions to a
Jack, Wei Dai,
machines are invented, there will be a much greater selection pressure
towards U=M*Q. But given that U=Q is closer to the reality today, I'm not
sure what good it would do to taking a stand against QS/QI.
To translate:
U=M*Q is 3rd person POV (hypothetical; viewed from
Hi,
I would say the Universal Soul. To be the ONE? The difficulty is that
Plotinus is not always clear.
I go now from my reading of mystical texts, not from the arithmetic
interpretation - and here mystics often report feeling at one with the
universe, everything etc.
I would say that
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 24 Feb 2009, at 03:04, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
2009/2/24 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
I tend to agree with Quentin that memories are an essential
component of
personal identity. But that also
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 05:51:49PM -0800, meekerdb @dslextreme.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Exactly (assuming comp). That is even the reason why amnesia can led
to fusion of first persons.
And given that there is (or should be) a notion
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, russell standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 05:51:49PM -0800, meekerdb @dslextreme.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Exactly (assuming comp). That is even the reason why amnesia can
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:00:39PM -0800, meekerdb @dslextreme.com wrote:
I think I am often *not* self-aware. But aside from that, I have definitely
been unconscious several times in my life and I'm sure other people (though
probably not Stathis) were unconscious at the same time. So an
2009/2/25 John Mikes jami...@gmail.com:
to your #1 reply: are you equating mind and soul? That would solve a lot of
problems (without making sense for many).
Yes. I am hoping someone can explain to me how soul might be something
over and above mind, if that is indeed what people who believe
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