Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/3/5 Johnathan Corgan : > It is at least conceivable that the collection of particles that is me > could undergo some environmental interaction such that *all* the > following entangled branches decohere into states that do *not* map to > the emergent class of "me, being conscious."  Then I w

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Günther Greindl
Bruno, > Indeed, that would be like if a number could make disappear another > number. Even a God cannot do that! The idea would be rather that some continuations would correspond to non-existent numbers, like, say, the natural number between 3 and 4. Cheers, Günther --~--~-~--~---

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Günther Greindl
Stathis, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> Imagine the sequence: >> >> Scan - Annihilate - Signal - Reconstitute > The no-cul-de-sac hypothesis is false if you allow that there is some > means of destroying all copies in the multiverse. But there is > probably no such means, no matter how advanced t

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 12:25 +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > The no-cul-de-sac hypothesis is false if you allow that there is some > > means of destroying all copies in the multiverse. But there is > > probably no such means, no matter how advanced the aliens. > > Indeed, that would be like if a n

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Mar 2009, at 07:08, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > 2009/3/4 Bruno Marchal : > >> That is why the B people made a law, for helping those who >> misunderstand the probability. If you decide (before duplication) to >> kill the copy, the choice of victim/torturer is still decided through >> a

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Mar 2009, at 07:13, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > 2009/3/4 Günther Greindl : > >> Imagine the sequence: >> >> Scan - Annihilate - Signal - Reconstitute >> >> Now consider that the Signal travels for 100 000 lightyears >> before it hits the reconstitution chamber (just to >> have a big dis