Re: language, cloning and thought experiments

2009-03-11 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/3/11 Wei Dai wei...@weidai.com: Jack Mallah wrote: They might not, but I'm sure most would; maybe not exactly that U, but a lot closer to it. Can you explain why you believe that? No.  In U = Sum_i M_i Q_i, you sum over all the i's, not just the ones that are similar to you.  Of

Re: Reality as simplicity

2009-03-11 Thread ronaldheld
I thought I would add the paper:Temporal Platonic Metaphysics:arxiv.org:0903.18001v1 On Mar 9, 12:26 pm, ronaldheld ronaldh...@gmail.com wrote: Not certain what thread this belongs in so I started up a new one. arxiv.org:0903.1193v1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Mikovi´c's Temporal Platonic Metaphysics

2009-03-11 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi Ronald, Thank you for recommending this paper. While I recognize many of the ideas in it, it bothers me that there is no explicit attempt to explain the beliefs (other that vague references to other papers/books). As I understand the paper, Mikovi´c is propossing a type of

Re: Changing the past by forgetting

2009-03-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
Nice! I did refer often to the Saibal Mitra backtracking procedure (in immortality discussions). I will take a further look on your paper. If valid, it should work in the comp frame. Amnesia could lead you to the original singularity, which could be a kind of blind spot of universal

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Mar 2009, at 02:25, Günther Greindl wrote: Hi Bruno, The idea was that the numbers encode moments which don't have successors (the guy who transports), that's why there exist alien-OMs encoded in numbers which destroy all the machines (if we assume that arithmetic is

Re: Mikovi´c's Temporal Platonic Metaphysics

2009-03-11 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi, this paper (Mikovic) is unfortunately not very good. I quote: There are strong arguments that the human mind is not computable, based on Goedel’s theorems in logic, see [3]. 3 refers to Penrose's Emperor's new mind. I don't think that I have to comment this fallacy on this list. (Bruno

Re: [Fwd: NDPR David Shoemaker, Personal Identity and Ethics: A Brief Introduction]

2009-03-11 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi Bruno, 1-OM, (by step 7, correspond to infinity (aleph_zero) of 3-OMs, themselves embedded in bigger infinities (2^aleph_zero) of computations going trough their corresponding states. Between you-in-the-living room, and you-in-the-kitchen there is already a continuum of

Re: Wolfram Alpha

2009-03-11 Thread Günther Greindl
Kim, great post, thanks! You may enjoy this TED talk: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html As to your laughing friend, I also know some such people, they have in truth not understood what science is about: asking questions, being critical

Re: Changing the past by forgetting

2009-03-11 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Tue, 3/10/09, Saibal Mitra smi...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.3825 I've written up a small article about the idea that you could end up in a different sector of the multiverse by selective memory erasure. I had written about that possibility a long time ago on