Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-04-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Apr 2009, at 20:41, Jason Resch wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Kelly harmon...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 21, 11:31 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: We could say that a state A access to a state B if there is a universal machine (a universal number relation)

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-04-23 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/4/23 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Say a machine is in two separate parts M1 and M2, and the information on M1 in state A is written to a punchcard, walked over to M2, loaded, and M2 goes into state B. Then what you are suggesting is that this

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-04-23 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/4/24 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/4/23 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Say a machine is in two separate parts M1 and M2, and the information on M1 in state A is written to a punchcard, walked over to M2, loaded, and M2 goes into state B.

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-04-23 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/4/24 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/4/23 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com: Say a machine is in two separate parts M1 and M2, and the information on M1 in state A is written to a punchcard, walked

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-04-23 Thread Brent Meeker
Kelly wrote: On Apr 22, 2:02 pm, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: I was with you up to that last sentence. Forward or backward, we just experience increasing entropy as increasing time, but that doesn't warrant the conclusion that no process is required and an instant within