Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
On 07/05/2009, at 3:43 PM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: I think that knowing what a person is is sort of like knowing what consciousness is. Good. Have you ever had the feeling/hunch/thought/intuition/ apprehension/revelation/vision (call it what you will) that you know a person to whom the

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 May 2009, at 11:35, Torgny Tholerus wrote: Bruno Marchal skrev: Something conscious cannot doubt about the existence of its consciousness, I think, although it can doubt everything else it can be conscious *about*. It is the unprovable (but coverable) fixed point of Descartes

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-07 Thread Torgny Tholerus
Bruno Marchal skrev: On 06 May 2009, at 11:35, Torgny Tholerus wrote: Bruno Marchal skrev: Someone unconscious cannot doubt either ... (A zombie can only fake doubts) Yes, you are right. I can only fake doubts... I suspect you are faking faking doubts, but of

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread daddycaylor
On May 7, 1:42 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: So - going back to God then, let's maybe do an OPV on him/her/it Hint: If I can't do an OPV on God, then I'm not convinced that: 1. God is a person (100% convinced) 2. There is a God (74% convinced) People here keep thinking

Artificial Hippocampus

2009-05-07 Thread Jason
Perhaps it won't be long before real life yes/no doctor scenarios are realized: http://wireheading.com/misc/brain-prosthesis.html Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post

Re: Artificial Hippocampus

2009-05-07 Thread Kelly Harmon
Another good one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8012496.stm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com

RE: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-07 Thread m.a.
Perhaps apropos. Common let's do de zombie rock All around de zombie block http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90682 -Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-l...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent:

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:30 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: On May 7, 1:42 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: So - going back to God then, let's maybe do an OPV on him/her/it Hint: If I can't do an OPV on God, then I'm not convinced that: 1. God is a person (100% convinced)

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
On 08/05/2009, at 2:30 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: People here keep thinking that I am trying to convince people that God is a person and/or that there is a God. OK - we will stop it! I don't really think that, but if you are anything like me Tom, you have gone through periods in your

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
Fabulous post, Jason. Enthralling stuff. Kim On 08/05/2009, at 9:20 AM, Jason Resch wrote: If we on this list believe that everything (or at least everything with a self consistent definition) exists, then we must also believe that all possible gods exist. Be they artificial