Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Dec 2009, at 19:56, Brent Meeker wrote:
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ :
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what dif
On 03 Dec 2009, at 19:56, Brent Meeker wrote:
> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>>
>> 2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ :
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou >> > wrote:
>>>
If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that
make
to anything?
>>> That wo
Rex Allen wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>> Science advances in small steps that often depend on technology. I think
>> the next 'hard' question that has some chance of being answered is, what
>> information processes are necessary and sufficient to produce hum
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
> Science advances in small steps that often depend on technology. I think
> the next 'hard' question that has some chance of being answered is, what
> information processes are necessary and sufficient to produce human-like
> conscious behav
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ :
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that make
to anything?
That would make a huge difference for me and Elvis - my
soulcatcher☠ wrote:
Lets consider two "hard" questions - "why do we live in THIS
universe?" (1) and "why am I me?" (2).
(1) . Why do we live in THIS universe?
Here we got:
- string theory and anthropic reasoning present us with a landscape of
10^(10^N) universes that we can choose fro
soulcatcher☠ wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Hi soulcatcher,
Good question, it is something I thought about too, then I realized I am me
because it was this brain in my skull asking that question. I created the
attached image to help illustrate my point.
On 03 Dec 2009, at 12:12, soulcatcher☠ wrote:
> x> This raises the question of how many first person exists. I like
> the idea
>> that the answer is one. We may be all "the universal person"
>> appearing and
>> reappearing like if we were already duplicated many times, which
>> makes sense
> Apparently it did not work. I am "bruno marchal" now!
>
> Please swish again!
>
> :)
No! I am Bruno Marchal! Pliz get me out of here :)
> Do you see the problem in the above exchange? It assumes there is some
> metaphysical "me" and "you" that can be conceptualised as flitting
> about from one
On 03 Dec 2009, at 13:38, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> 2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ :
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou > > wrote:
>>> If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that
>>> make
>>> to anything?
>>
>> That would make a huge difference for me and Elv
2009/12/3 soulcatcher☠ :
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou
> wrote:
>> If you were Elvis and Elvis were you, what difference would that make
>> to anything?
>
> That would make a huge difference for me and Elvis - my (and his)
> subjective experiences would be very different.
> Lets consider two "hard" questions - "why do we live in THIS
> universe?" (1) and "why am I me?" (2).
>
> (1) . Why do we live in THIS universe?
>
> Here we got:
> - string theory and anthropic reasoning present us with a landscape of
> 10^(10^N) universes that we can choose from.
> - we've got s
x> This raises the question of how many first person exists. I like the idea
> that the answer is one. We may be all "the universal person" appearing and
> reappearing like if we were already duplicated many times, which makes sense
> given that we come from the same amoeba. We are like a god who l
On 02 Dec 2009, at 14:16, soulcatcher☠ wrote:
> Hi all,
> every time I read about the anthropic reasoning in physics I can't
> help asking the more general question:
> "Why I am I, not somebody else?"
> Why I see through _this_ eyes, am confined to _this_ brain, was born
> in _this_ year, etc?
>
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