Re: numbers?

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Buda
Jason Resch writes: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Mark Buda wrote: > > > Numbers exist not in any physical sense but in the same sense that any > idea exists - they exist in the sense that minds exist that believe > logical propositions about them. They exist because minds beli

Re: numbers?

2010-07-30 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > On 7/29/2010 10:25 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Mark Buda wrote: > >> >> Numbers exist not in any physical sense but in the same sense that any >> idea exists - they exist in the sense that minds exist th

Re: numbers?

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Buda
Jason Resch writes: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > On 7/29/2010 10:25 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Mark Buda wrote: > > ... I do understand that the existence of the physical universe leads > to minds, and the minds lea

Calculabilité, physique et cognition

2010-07-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi, I let you know that my thesis has been published by the Editions Universitaires Européennes If interested, you can buy it here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Calculabilité-Physique-Cognition-thèse-originale/dp/6131517681 Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this messag

Re: numbers?

2010-07-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Jul 2010, at 17:03, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 7/29/2010 10:25 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Mark Buda wrote: Numbers exist not in any physical sense but in the same sense that any idea exists - they

Re: numbers?

2010-07-30 Thread David Nyman
On 30 July 2010 17:35, Bruno Marchal wrote: > ... and if you believe that the universe can be accounted for by a some > consistent mathematical structure. Which is an open problem. Assuming > mechanism, physical universes have no real existence at all, except as first > person sharable experience