Re: Compatibilism

2010-11-29 Thread 1Z
On Nov 19, 3:11 am, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: Rex, Your post reminded me of the quote (of which I cannot recall the source) where someone asked Who pushes who around inside the brain?, meaning is it

Re: Compatibilism

2010-11-29 Thread 1Z
On Nov 28, 11:36 pm, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi Rex and Bruno,     I think that you are both missing an important point by taking an from infinity view. The fact that the world is not given to us in terms where these is one and only one option given some condition

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-11-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Nov 2010, at 20:45, 1Z wrote: On Nov 27, 7:40 pm, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: snip And then we have the cause of our experience. This is true in all cases: scientific realism, scientific materialism, BIV, matrix, other skeptical scenarios. It is not the same in all

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-11-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Nov 2010, at 21:18, Pzomby wrote: On Nov 27, 10:49 am, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: The same goes for more abstract

Re: Compatibilism

2010-11-29 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi 1Z, -Original Message- From: 1Z Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:38 AM To: Everything List Subject: Re: Compatibilism On Nov 28, 11:36 pm, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi Rex and Bruno, I think that you are both missing an important point by taking an

Re: Compatibilism

2010-11-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Nov 2010, at 23:49, Rex Allen wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: With your definition of free will, it does not exist. I think we agree. Very good. So what we are really arguing about here is whether your definition or my definition is

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-11-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Nov 2010, at 05:15, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: Information is just a catch-all term for what is being represented. But, as you say, the same

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-11-29 Thread Brent Meeker
On 11/28/2010 11:36 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com mailto:rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at