Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 18, 4:00 pm, benjayk wrote: > 1Z wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 10:38 pm, benjayk wrote: > >> Brent Meeker-2 wrote: > > >> > On 2/17/2011 12:27 PM, benjayk wrote: > > >> >> Brent Meeker-2 wrote: > > >> >>> On 2/17/2011 10:14 AM, benjayk wrote: > > >> 1Z wrote: > > >> > On Feb 17, 3:10

Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 18, 3:07 pm, benjayk wrote: > 1Z wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 8:52 pm, benjayk wrote: > >> 1Z wrote: > > >> > On Feb 17, 6:14 pm, benjayk wrote: > >> >> 1Z wrote: > > >> >> > On Feb 17, 3:10 pm, benjayk wrote: > >> >> >> 1Z wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> Comp will imply that such a primary matte

Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its false?

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 18, 3:06 pm, Jason Resch wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:15 AM, 1Z wrote: > > > On Feb 18, 5:30 am, Jason Resch wrote: > > > Peter, > > > > Correct me if I am wrong but I think we have established some things we > > > agree on: > > > > Consciousness is informational > > No > > > > Th

Re: Unicorns!

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 18, 2:03 pm, "Stephen Paul King" wrote: > Hi, > > -Original Message- > From: 1Z > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 7:04 AM > To: Everything List > Subject: Re: Maudlin & How many times does COMP have to be false before its > > false? > > >>On Feb 17, 8:52 pm, benjayk wrote: > > sn

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> Now, just recall that "Platonia" is based on classical logic where >>> the >>> falsity f, or 0 = 1, entails all proposition. So if you insist to say >>> that 0 = 1, I will soon prove that you owe to me A billions of >>> dollars, and

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 20, 7:12 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 20 Feb 2011, at 13:13, benjayk wrote: > >>  So we can say > >> things like, "Sherlock Holmes lived at 10 Baker Street" are true,   > >> even > >> though Sherlock Holmes never existed. > > Whether Sherlock Holmes existed is not a trivial question. He

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 20, 6:53 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 20 Feb 2011, at 00:39, benjayk wrote: > You will find the best and the worst. Podnieks' page is not too > bad.http://www.ltn.lv/~podnieks/ "a correct philosophical position of a mathematician should be: a) Platonism - on working days - when I'm do

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 19, 12:34 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 18 Feb 2011, at 17:13, benjayk wrote: > > > > > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> What do you mean by Platonia? > > >> The kind of Platonia in Tegmark or in Peter's (1Z) post does not make > >> sense for mathematicians. Even if you are using a

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread 1Z
On Feb 18, 8:52 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 18 Feb 2011, at 12:53, 1Z wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 9:48 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> Hi, > > >> What do you mean by Platonia? > > >> The kind of Platonia in Tegmark or in Peter's (1Z) post does not make > >> sense for mathematicians. Even if

Re: How embryogenesis fits in the mind-body problem?

2011-02-22 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Thank you for your answers. I have still a coupled of questions. > But with computer science, intuition can be misleading. Intuition could be misleading not only in computer science. I know. >> Moreover my first person view assumes that there are some others >> first person views, for example,

Re: Observers Class Hypothesis

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Feb 2011, at 07:58, Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 03:46:45PM -0800, Travis Garrett wrote: Hi Stephen, Sorry for the slow reply, I have been working on various things and also catching up on the many conversations (and naming conventions) on this board. And thanks

Re: Vic Stenger on information models

2011-02-22 Thread Stephen Paul King
From: Bruno Marchal Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:19 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Vic Stenger on information models On 21 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Brent Meeker wrote: This, from my friend Vic Stenger, might be of interest to you Bruno. Original Message --

Re: How embryogenesis fits in the mind-body problem?

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Feb 2011, at 21:16, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Thank you for your answer. I am also sorry for confusion as with "What mind-body research says about the development of mind from a single cell and then its death?" I have meant "What mind-body research says about the development of mind fro

Re: Vic Stenger on information models

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Feb 2011, at 19:53, Brent Meeker wrote: This, from my friend Vic Stenger, might be of interest to you Bruno. Original Message My latest HuffBlog is at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/the-new-information-theol_b_825648.html Vic I read it, but Vic seems

Re: Platonia

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Feb 2011, at 17:34, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Feb 2011, at 13:13, benjayk wrote: Brent Meeker-2 wrote: On 2/19/2011 3:39 PM, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Isn't it enough to say everything that we *could* describe in mathematics exists "in platonia"?

Reversal without primary matter elimination (step 7)

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
Peter, Andrew, I am still trying to figure out what is it that you don't understand in the seventh step of the UDA, as opposed to the eighth step. I resend my question to 1Z, as promise, with some slight changes. Most of 1Z critics of the reversal physics/number-theory consequence of comp w