Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 29, 10:28 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: A brain also undergoes physical changes just as elaborate and intricate (topologically) as the experiences taking place through it, I agree with the above. yet the brain's

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-30 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: Nevertheless I think truth and goodness are very intimately related. Plato and Plotinus identify God and the Good. Now, this is related to very subtle point with the comp hyp. Like you, and like all Platonist, I

Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 30, 4:06 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: Definitely, but the reasons that we have for causing those changes in the semiconductor material are not semiconductor logics. They use hardware logic to to get the hardware to do

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-30 Thread benjayk
I just had an interesting idea with regards to our ontological/epistemological debate. Could it be that the number 0 is conscious itself, by virtue of being itself (and all numbers share that property, because the make just sense relative to 0)? This would pretty much merge our ideas, because we

Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: A molecule in a cell will behave exactly the same as a molecule anywhere else in the universe. Do you believe otherwise? Do you have any experimental evidence? Here you first have to define what a molecule is. It

Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 30, 11:29 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 30 Aug 2011, at 14:43, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 30, 4:06 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: Definitely, but the reasons that we have for causing those changes  

Re: COMP refutation paper - finally out

2011-08-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:13, benjayk wrote: I just had an interesting idea with regards to our ontological/epistemological debate. Could it be that the number 0 is conscious itself, by virtue of being itself (and all numbers share that property, because the make just sense relative to 0)?

Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 30, 5:31 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/30/2011 9:41 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If you deem all phenomena in the universe to be a priori mechanistic, then that word has no meaning. If you want it to mean something then you have to allow that some phenomena are not

Re: Dualism? Yes!

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Jason, Interleaving... On 8/29/2011 8:27 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 8/28/2011 11:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: Capillary action is not a violation of the laws of physics. What about substance monism

Re: Dualism?

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/29/2011 6:05 PM, John Mikes wrote: Stephen and Jason, interesting discours, but you use concepts that beg for my questioning. Dualism may be an observation based on phenomena we misunderstand and explain to the level of present theories. A violation of the laws of physics asks: are those

Re: bruno list

2011-08-30 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/30/2011 11:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Aug 2011, at 14:43, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Aug 30, 4:06 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: Definitely, but the reasons that we have for causing those changes in the semiconductor