On 12/30/2011 4:23 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIuF5DcsbKU
‘The uncanny valley is a hypothesis in the field of robotics and 3D
computer animation which holds that when human replicas look and act
almost, but not perfectly, like actual human beings, it causes a
respon
On 12/30/2011 4:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Dec 2011, at 20:44, Charles Goodwin wrote:
Hi Bruno
What observable properties of black holes may be explained by the fact that they don't
erase information?
Black hole evaporation. I am thinking about some work by Hawking.
Hawking's theo
On 12/30/2011 12:51 AM, Pierz wrote:
On Dec 30, 6:35 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/29/2011 4:11 PM, Pierz wrote:
You think it is ludicrous that a Mars Rover is programmed to monitor the state
of its
battery, the temperature of its motors, the amount of memory available for
pictures, etc?
Brent
On Dec 30, 3:41 pm, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > Are you arguing that there is no difference between dreams and reality?
>
> I am arguing that sometimes there is no way to tell the difference between
> dreams and reality
I don't think that's true that the
On Dec 31, 4:36 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 30 Dec 2011, at 03:10, Pierz wrote:
>
> > This thread has been extremely helpful to me in terms of getting to
> > the heart of this problem and the whole issue of supervenience - thank
> > you Joseph for your clarification of the meaning of the term
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> Which computation? I don't see any computation in the projection of the
> computation-movie. The Boolean graph nodes are broken. The light patterns
> is exactly the same, with the boolean graph turned, or not, upside down.
> You argument
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 Craig Weinberg wrote:
> Are you arguing that there is no difference between dreams and reality?
>
I am arguing that sometimes there is no way to tell the difference between
dreams and reality and I am arguing that a good idea discovered while awake
and the same idea discove
On 30.12.2011 04:33 meekerdb said the following:
On 12/29/2011 5:29 PM, John Clark wrote:
...
Yes, exactly like every other model of consciousness, not one has
the slightest bit of experimental evidence in its favor,
consciousness theories are all equally useless. So lets talk about
intellige
On 30 Dec 2011, at 16:18, David Nyman wrote:
On 30 December 2011 12:07, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What is a consciousness apart from its content?
That's a good question. May be it is cosmic consciousness, or pure
consciousness of pure consciousness, or perhaps the innate
consciousness of
the
On 30 Dec 2011, at 03:10, Pierz wrote:
This thread has been extremely helpful to me in terms of getting to
the heart of this problem and the whole issue of supervenience - thank
you Joseph for your clarification of the meaning of the term and for
your succinct and clear summary of the MGA, and
On 30 Dec 2011, at 02:53, Russell Standish wrote:
Another thought I had whilst mowing the lawn (we've had a lot of rain
recently, and the grass has gone beserk, so lots of time to think
whilst mowing. Kim Jones would know what I'm talking about!).
Mowing, taking bath, ... are good for deep th
On 30 December 2011 12:07, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> What is a consciousness apart from its content?
>
> That's a good question. May be it is cosmic consciousness, or pure
> consciousness of pure consciousness, or perhaps the innate consciousness of
> the pre-löbian universal machine. Of course we
On 30 Dec 2011, at 01:57, Pierz wrote:
Of course, when consciousness is taken seriously into account, we can
sense some incoherence, but empirically, this is the hard part to
convey, and without MGA/Maudlin, I have not been able to convince of
the "frank incoherence".
And you've been successf
On 30 Dec 2011, at 01:03, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 05:26:00PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But the conversation here has been very useful indeed. And it is not
finished!
Thanks. I would agree it has been very useful as well. I will also be
travelling for the next week
On 30 Dec 2011, at 01:00, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 05:47:07PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Dec 2011, at 22:21, Russell Standish wrote:
They both cannot supervene on the same physical state.
In my weak sense, they both supervene on the same physical state of
th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIuF5DcsbKU
‘The uncanny valley is a hypothesis in the field of robotics and 3D
computer animation which holds that when human replicas look and act
almost, but not perfectly, like actual human beings, it causes a
response of revulsion among human observers. The “val
On 29 Dec 2011, at 20:44, Charles Goodwin wrote:
Hi Bruno
What observable properties of black holes may be explained by the
fact that they don't erase information?
Black hole evaporation. I am thinking about some work by Hawking.
But $any* true erasing of information is forbid in any theor
On 29 Dec 2011, at 19:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/29/2011 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Dec 2011, at 22:21, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:10:29PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But I still fail to see what you mean by swapping two
consciousness.
In this case we hav
On Dec 30, 6:35 pm, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/29/2011 4:11 PM, Pierz wrote:
> You think it is ludicrous that a Mars Rover is programmed to monitor the
> state of its
> battery, the temperature of its motors, the amount of memory available for
> pictures, etc?
>
> Brent
Let's not go down that bo
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