Re: The free will function

2012-02-15 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: can a virtual typhoon makes you wet? I don't know, it depends on whether you are in the same level of reality as the typhoon. I do know for certain that a real typhoon can't make the laws of physics wet because they exist at

Re: COMP theology

2012-02-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Feb 2012, at 01:21, David Nyman wrote: On 14 February 2012 20:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The reductio demolishes the possibility of this being true qua materia, because the relevant physical components have, in effect, been rendered impotent. Gosh? Why? Bruno, I

Re: COMP theology

2012-02-15 Thread David Nyman
On 15 February 2012 16:27, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: OK? Thanks, that helped a lot. Sorry about the initial misunderstanding. David On 15 Feb 2012, at 01:21, David Nyman wrote: On 14 February 2012 20:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:  The reductio demolishes the

Re: Intelligence and consciousness

2012-02-15 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: TO HELL WITH ELIZA That prehistoric program is NOT intelligent! What makes you sure it isn't intelligent but that other programs are? How the hell do you think?! ELIZA doesn't act intelligently but other programs do.

Re: 1p 3p comparison

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Feb 14, 5:44 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:17, Craig Weinberg wrote: It's not clear to me what the difference would really be between emerging from truth and embodying logic. You tell me. Emerging from arithmetical truth just means true in

Re: Intelligence and consciousness

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Feb 15, 1:22 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012  Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: TO HELL WITH ELIZA That prehistoric program is NOT intelligent! What makes you sure it isn't intelligent but that other programs are? How the hell do you

Re: On Pre-existing Fields

2012-02-15 Thread acw
On 2/14/2012 13:45, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/14/2012 5:13 AM, acw wrote: How does the existence on an entity determine its properties? Please answer this question. What do soundness and consistency even mean when there does not exist an unassailable way of defining what they are? Look