Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Stephen, On 13 May 2012, at 19:17, Stephen P. King wrote: On 5/13/2012 9:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 May 2012, at 19:50, John Clark wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: although machines can be said determined, they are not entirely

Re: Dualism via Quantum Mechanics

2012-05-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 May 2012, at 23:19, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.05.2012 15:09 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 12 May 2012, at 14:59, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 12.05.2012 13:33 Bruno Marchal said the following: Evgenii, All this is well known. Copenhagen theory, or unique-universe theory are

Re: Dualism via Quantum Mechanics

2012-05-14 Thread Stephen P. King
On 5/14/2012 4:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 May 2012, at 23:19, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 13.05.2012 15:09 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 12 May 2012, at 14:59, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 12.05.2012 13:33 Bruno Marchal said the following: Evgenii, All this is well known.

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-14 Thread R AM
I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are possible in a deterministic world, and you are not denying it. I guess our points of view are orthogonal. Ricardo. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: On May 13, 4:19 pm, R AM

Re: Dualism via Quantum Mechanics

2012-05-14 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 14.05.2012 10:29 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 13 May 2012, at 23:19, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... Yet, I guess that even not all physicists believe in multiverse. When you convince all physicists that multivers exists, I will start thinking about it. On reality, usually all humans

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-14 Thread John Mikes
Qualia aspect? Please consider my 'rigid' agnostic stance with all those unknowable aspects playing into - what you so succinctly call: 'qualia' - I struggled for a long time to boil down my MOST GENERALIZED definition for something that would cover what many of us (?) call consciousness. I don't

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-14 Thread meekerdb
On 5/14/2012 1:58 PM, John Mikes wrote: Qualia aspect? Please consider my 'rigid' agnostic stance with all those unknowable aspects playing into - what you so succinctly call: 'qualia' - I struggled for a long time to boil down my MOST GENERALIZED definition for something that would cover what

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-14 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 14, 2:11 pm, R AM ramra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are possible in a deterministic world, and you are not denying it. I guess our points of view are orthogonal. I am denying that meaningful decisions, learning, or reinforcement are

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-14 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On May 14, 2:11 pm, R AM ramra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are possible in a deterministic world, and you are not denying it. I guess our points of view are

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-14 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 14, 11:03 pm, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On May 14, 2:11 pm, R AM ramra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are possible in a deterministic