Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jul 2012, at 19:29, John Clark wrote (to Evgenii Rudnyi) If you want to understand why people are the way they are I don't think the Theory-of-Everything would help you much, you'd do much better studding Evolutionary Biology, neurology, or computer science. Yes, computer science

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread meekerdb
On 7/9/2012 6:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2012, at 19:29, John Clark wrote (to Evgenii Rudnyi) If you want to understand why people are the way they are I don't think the Theory-of-Everything would help you much, you'd do much better studding Evolutionary Biology, neurology, or

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jul 2012, at 17:26, meekerdb wrote: On 7/9/2012 6:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Jul 2012, at 19:29, John Clark wrote (to Evgenii Rudnyi) If you want to understand why people are the way they are I don't think the Theory-of-Everything would help you much, you'd do much better

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How do you derive fermions and bosons from comp? I don't know how to derive fermions and bosons from nothing but arithmetic but you can do the next best thing. If the Schrodinger wave function for a particle is a odd

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread meekerdb
On 7/9/2012 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: How do you derive fermions and bosons from comp? I don't know how to derive fermions and bosons from nothing but arithmetic but you can do the next

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 07.07.2012 21:54 Bruno Marchal said the following: On 07 Jul 2012, at 15:31, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: My comments to Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, especially to the statement from the book “Traditionally these are questions for philosophy, but philosophy is dead.

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 08.07.2012 19:29 John Clark said the following: On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru wrote: What I cannot comprehend though is why some people, which after all are also just occasional conglomerates of small particles obeying the Theory-of-Everything, react very differently

Re: Stephen Hawking: Philosophy is Dead

2012-07-09 Thread John Mikes
Bruno, thanks for your 'views' expressed to Evgeniy below. *...**Why people believe... *I think we agreed that no such thing in our access as a Theory of Everything (omniscience missing) and the figments scientists believe IN are fables. I apologize for writing in brief *Nature* and not as I