Numbers in Leibniz

2012-10-28 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Still waiting for the storm to shut things down. Numbers are not discussed specifically as far as I can find yet, in my books on Leibniz. Which probably means that they are simply numbers, with no ontological status. Sort of like space or time. Inextended and everywhere. Numbers are

Re: Re: A mirror of the universe.

2012-10-28 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal I still haven't sorted the issue of numbers out. I suppose I ought to do some research in my Leibniz books. Aside from that, monads have to be attached to corporeal bodies, and numbers aren't like that. I find the following unsatisfactory, but since numbers are like ideas, th

Hurricane

2012-10-28 Thread Roger Clough
Hi everything-list If things go as expected, meaning that the power goes off, I may be offline for a couple of days. Washington DC is just about to be hit by a hurricane. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/28/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen -- You

Re: Re: Dennett and others on qualia

2012-10-28 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Yes, my error, quanta are in spacetime too. I'm still adjusting to some of these concepts. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/28/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal R

Re: A mirror of the universe.

2012-10-28 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/28/2012 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 17:02, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/27/2012 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 20:30, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/26/2012 8:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Dear Bruno and Alberto, I agree some what with both

One world versus many

2012-10-28 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi, Since the subject has been broached... /http://arxiv.org/pdf/0905.0624.pdf One world versus many: the inadequacy of Everettian accounts of evolution,// //probability, and scientific confirmation/ by Adrian Kent (Dated: August 24, 2010) "There is a compelling intellectual case for exp

Re: Code length = probability distribution

2012-10-28 Thread meekerdb
On 10/28/2012 10:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Oct 2012, at 00:19, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:13:50PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: Oh yes, I remember that you did agree once with the 323 principle, but I forget what is your problem with the movie-graph/step-8, then

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-10-28 Thread meekerdb
On 10/28/2012 10:23 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I am not sure if you are being consistent here. Earlier you said you said you identify yourself with a stream of thoughts Obviously. >If you are identified with a

Re: wave function collapse

2012-10-28 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno, But it seems that the Gleason Theorem assigns probabilities to the different universes in the multiverse that are not there in Everett's MWI in the first place. Richard On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 26 Oct 2012, at 15:52, Richard Ruquist wrote: > >> Well Brun

Re: wave function collapse

2012-10-28 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Well Bruno, > > If the "measure problem" (which I take to be the assignment of > probabilities) is intrinsic to Everett's MWI, does that not amount to > negating it? I did not suggest that it negated comp, which is what you > responded to.

Re: Code length = probability distribution

2012-10-28 Thread meekerdb
On 10/28/2012 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:35, meekerdb wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Oh yes, I remember that you did agree once with the 323 principle, but I f

Re: Code length = probability distribution

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Oct 2012, at 00:19, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:13:50PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: Oh yes, I remember that you did agree once with the 323 principle, but I forget what is your problem with the movie-graph/step-8, then. If you find the time, I am please if you can

Re: On mathematical modeling

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Oct 2012, at 11:22, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: From Scientific Representation: Paradoxes of Perspective by Bas C Van Fraassen. p. 40 'Of course the story is apocryphal, that a professional gambler funded a mathematician to analyze horse-racing, and was thoroughly unhappy with the report

Re: Solipsism = 1p

2012-10-28 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:48:29 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > >> It seems that you do not understand the meaning of the term "consistent > >> with the laws of physics". It means that when you decide to play tennis > the >

Re: mega-consciousness,created by bio-electrical circuitry?

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
Very interesting. I think that in the long run, we will come back to being bacteria, but with cables, with ultra redundant coding of our humanity. Those bacteria seems to already do the cables. Why? Nice discovery. Bruno On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:59, meekerdb wrote: UH OH! We may have to consi

Re: Code length = probability distribution

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:35, meekerdb wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Oh yes, I remember that you did agree once with the 323 principle, but I forget what is your problem with the movi

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Oct 2012, at 19:27, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> your eyes are sending signals to your brain of the White House and not of the Kremlin, and there is nothing more profound about it. > But the eyes of the copy get also the signals from Moscow. Yes,

Re: Solipsism = 1p

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Oct 2012, at 17:49, John Mikes wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 14:24, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, October 26, 2012 1:01:34 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > We are atoms,

Re: A mirror of the universe.

2012-10-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Oct 2012, at 17:02, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/27/2012 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 20:30, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/26/2012 8:44 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Dear Bruno and Alberto, I agree some what with both of you. As to the idea of a "genetic algorit

On mathematical modeling

2012-10-28 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
From Scientific Representation: Paradoxes of Perspective by Bas C Van Fraassen. p. 40 'Of course the story is apocryphal, that a professional gambler funded a mathematician to analyze horse-racing, and was thoroughly unhappy with the report that began "Let each horse be a perfect sphere, roll

Re: Solipsism = 1p

2012-10-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> It seems that you do not understand the meaning of the term "consistent >> with the laws of physics". It means that when you decide to play tennis the >> neurons in your brain will depolarise because of the ionic gradients, > > > If you ca