On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
> But according to computationalism your conscious moment is attached to
> some computer program, and computer programs progress until they halt.
>
And a computer program is constantly changing so consciousness is
constantly changing too, and t
On 23 Nov 2012, at 16:43, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal,
I find this statement on http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mmk/papers/05-KI.html
:
"the Lucas-Penrose argument, which can be summarized as follows:
Since Gödel proved that in each sound formal system - which is strong
enough to f
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:39 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 Jason Resch wrote:
>
> > I wonder if your disagreement stems from different concepts of a self
>> sampling assumption Absolute Self Sampling Assumption (ASSA) vs. Relative
>> Self Sampling Assumption (RSSA).
>>
>
> I don'
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 Jason Resch wrote:
> I wonder if your disagreement stems from different concepts of a self
> sampling assumption Absolute Self Sampling Assumption (ASSA) vs. Relative
> Self Sampling Assumption (RSSA).
>
I don't know which assumption is better and I don't see how it matters
Hi Bruno Marchal
I blow hot and cold about comp because I am not
really a theoretical thinker, I have to see how whatever works,
and I' stuck on US(1) as I do not know who is in control:
you or the computer ?.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/23/2012
"Forever is a long time, especiall
Hi Bruno Marchal
Actually in effect I asked 2 questions:
1) It was a little unclear to me what actually took place.
I was thinking regarding UD1 that what was reconstituted in Helsinki
was the computer program, which could be sent as a data file
over the internet, while the real fleshly you
rem
On 23 Nov 2012, at 13:18, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno:
At least one objection to UD(1) of mine is this problem:
Buridan's ass is an illustration of a paradox in philosophy in the
conception of free will.
It refers to a hypothetical situation wherein an ass that is equally
hungry and thi
On 23 Nov 2012, at 13:14, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
The problem is very basic and concerns at least UD(1).
I would call it the "what's next" problem.
Suppose you say yes, doctor and then wake up after the
transplant of a computer for your brain. Everything feels
fine, there is is n
Hi Roger,
On 23 Nov 2012, at 10:23, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
1) I suspect that when you refer to imagination, it is the
same as what I call intuition. They're related, but I don't
think they're exactly the same. I see intuition as coming
from Platonia and spreading wider than the
On 22 Nov 2012, at 19:26, Stephen P. King wrote:
Dear Friends,
In my research for my earlier post (Re: Nothing happens in the
Universe of the Everett Interpretation) I found the following:
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_beliefs
Hierarchy of beliefs
"Construction by Je
Hi Craig Weinberg
I can't disagree.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/23/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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On Friday, November 23, 2012 7:35:09 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> Yes,intuition comes from Platonia, whereas
> a dream might come from a bad choice of food,
> or a nasty comment somebody made.
>
> Intuition brings in something new and presumably
> good and rational, b
Hi Richard Ruquist
Sorry, I never felt the need to connect MWI to
human behavior.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
11/23/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes,intuition comes from Platonia, whereas
a dream might come from a bad choice of food,
or a nasty comment somebody made.
Intuition brings in something new and presumably
good and rational, but with a dream you are often only
forced into a fruitless search for a solution
to y
Hi Bruno:
At least one objection to UD(1) of mine is this problem:
Buridan's ass is an illustration of a paradox in philosophy in the conception
of free will.
It refers to a hypothetical situation wherein an ass that is equally hungry and
thirsty is placed precisely midway
between a stack of hay
Hi Bruno:
At least one objection to UD(1) of mine is this problem:
Buridan's ass is an illustration of a paradox in philosophy in the conception
of free will.
It refers to a hypothetical situation wherein an ass that is equally hungry and
thirsty is placed precisely midway
between a stack of hay
Hi Bruno Marchal
The problem is very basic and concerns at least UD(1).
I would call it the "what's next" problem.
Suppose you say yes, doctor and then wake up after the
transplant of a computer for your brain. Everything feels
fine, there is is no problem to solve, you have no immediate goal,
On Friday, November 23, 2012 4:23:49 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
> 1) I suspect that when you refer to imagination, it is the
> same as what I call intuition. They're related, but I don't
> think they're exactly the same. I see intuition as coming
> from Platonia and spr
Hi Bruno Marchal
The problem is very basic and concerns at least UD(1).
I would call it the "what's next" problem.
Suppose you say yes, doctor and then wake up after the
transplant of a computer for your brain. Everything feels
fine, there is is no problem to solve, you have no immediate goal,
On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:25:51 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
>
> - Receiving the following content -
> *From:* Craig Weinberg
> *Receiver:* everything-list
> *Time:* 2012-11-18, 10:28:36
> *Subject:* Re: Leibniz's definition(s) of substance
>
> CRAIG: Hi Roger,
>
> I think it's ci
On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:36:58 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 Craig Weinberg >wrote:
>
> > I would never claim there is no relationship between numbers and
>> geometry, I claim that there is no function which geometry serves for
>> arithmetic.
>
>
> Pythagoras d
Hi Bruno Marchal
1) I suspect that when you refer to imagination, it is the
same as what I call intuition. They're related, but I don't
think they're exactly the same. I see intuition as coming
from Platonia and spreading wider than the individual to
all possible solutions. In essence, you do n
All,
I came across this site (
http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/intro.html ) which is run by the
programmer John Walker, who created AutoCAD.
You can try some of the experiments yourself here:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/
I was thinking, if there are statistically significan
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:45 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> >>John Clark keeps saying that after the duplication John Clark will be
>>> in both places.
>>
>>
>> > Not from its personal subjective view (1p).
>>
>
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