RE: Biography, roger clough, Soles, 1963

2012-11-28 Thread William R. Buckley
Nice to know something of the man on the other end of these emails! wrb From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:25 AM To: everything-list Subject: Biography, roger clough, Soles, 1963

Ben GOERTZEL on "What is Real?"

2012-11-28 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Folks, An example of my kind of thinking: http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-are-these-things-called-realities.html "Nietzsche, in The Twilight of the Idols, argues against Kant's philosophical theory of noumena (fundamentally real entities, not directly observa

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-28 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > You keep confusing the 3-views on the 1-views and the 1-views about >> themselves, >> > > You should get a rubber stamp of that phrase made, it's your standard > reply to all criticisms,

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-28 Thread meekerdb
On 11/28/2012 2:05 PM, John Clark wrote: > Same with the two slits: QM describes the two different outcomes of the measurement Yes QM predicts the photon will hit here or there with a certain probability, but afterward the measurement produces only one outcome, as can be seen when we dev

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-28 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > you agreed that the W and M experience are exclusive, making the 1-view > unique from the 1-view point. > Everybody has a unique viewpoint looking back into the past, nobody has a unique viewpoint looking to the future. > you have to

Re: Biography, roger clough, Soles, 1963

2012-11-28 Thread John Mikes
Dear Roger, several things... 1. Congrats to your bio, I could've detected that 'too much' engineering in your background. I give you (free!) a ZERO (add it to your retirement year: it should be 200+0). 2. You seem to be efficient in your (lately) studies of the advanced (onto-) ideas of 300 years

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 28 Nov 2012, at 02:12, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:29:42 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 11/27/2012 10:52 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: The question though is how does that happen? How do tangible things interface with logic - how do they know the logic is there, how do

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-28 Thread meekerdb
On 11/28/2012 2:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The question though is how does that happen? Actually comp is better than physics here. in physics we don't know why and how electron obey the SWE. It is the ureasonable use of math in physics. With comp there is only math (arithmetic) and from this

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Nov 2012, at 22:36, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at Bruno Marchal wrote: > The you are all the guy who feel to be you, all the time. So you is you. Thanks for clearing that up. Yes. > You are using the pronouns in the confusing way, as you use "you", when I use al

Peirce, comp, the monads, and the tripartite brain

2012-11-28 Thread Roger Clough
My previous analysis possibly suggests the following (?): III Thirdness= comp= quantitative or objective brain = ? cerebreal cortex, thinking = b of bdi agent II Secondness = monads = qualitative or subjective brain = ? limbic brain, sensing or feeling = d of bdi agent I Firstness = Supreme m

Re: Re: intuitional logic and comp

2012-11-28 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal Perhaps one can say that intuitionist logic is a personalized modal logic, while classic logic is impersonal necessary logic ? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/28/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following conten

Re: Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno, Does any or all forms of energy come from arithmetic? On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 27 Nov 2012, at 19:52, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:01:26 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 26 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Craig Weinberg wro

Re: Against Mechanism

2012-11-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Nov 2012, at 19:10, meekerdb wrote: On 11/27/2012 9:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But at the instant the box is opened and different things revealed "you" is turned into the Washington man and "you" is turned into the Moscow man, so back in Helsinki to ask "what will "you" see?" is