Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: I meant if the table talks to you just like a person does, giving you consistently interesting conversation and useful advice on a wide variety of subjects. Unless it's a trick and there's a hidden speaker

Science is a religion by itself.

2013-02-15 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Schrodinger's cat and “ The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass” =. This law consist of two (2) parts: a) according to “ The law of conservation (!) energy/mass” Schroedinger's cat cannot die. b) according to “ The law of transformation (!) energy/mass” Schroedinger's cat

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/15/2013 6:26 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: I meant if the table talks to you just like a person does, giving you consistently interesting conversation and useful advice on a wide variety of subjects. Unless

Re: The duplicators and the restorers

2013-02-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Feb 2013, at 19:50, meekerdb wrote: On 2/14/2013 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 20:36, meekerdb wrote: On 2/13/2013 7:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Experiences cannot be duplicated literally, because I suspect that unique is the only thing that experiences can

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Feb 2013, at 22:00, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/14/2013 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Stephen P. King wrote, to Craig Weinberg Baudrillard is not talking about consciousness in particular, only the sum of whatever is in the original which is not

Re: Does p make sense?

2013-02-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hello Dan, On 15 Feb 2013, at 05:31, freqflyer07281972 wrote: Dear Bruno, I would like to know what 'doxastic models of consciousness' means, as well as what means S4Grz - I know Craig was the one who originally used the term 'doxastic models' but you seemed to know right away what that

Re: How can intelligence be physical ?

2013-02-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Feb 2013, at 05:52, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: The learned men confuse the mathematical tools with the physical reality and therefore we have math-physical fairy-tales. =. That happens too, and is of course even worst than confusing mathematical tools and the mathematical

For athjeists and other seekers of truth; Willard Quine on Truth

2013-02-15 Thread Roger Clough
http://www.scaruffi.com/phi/quine.html Synopsis: Purely analythic truths do not exist: all truth depends on both language and facts Even Logic and Mathematics are, ultimately, empirical A statement alone cannot be verified: only the totality of statements (science in its totality) can be

Sheldrake's Morphic resonance in terms of Leibniz 2-13-13

2013-02-15 Thread Roger Clough
Sheldrake's Morphic resonance in terms of Leibniz 2-13-13 The concepts discussed here are modified forms of those found in http://www.uky.edu/~look/8899403.pdf , which is a treatise on the meanings of domination and subordination in Leibniz' metaphysics. We will only discuss monads of

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:01:30 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 2/13/2013 9:41 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:37:08 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 2/13/2013 5:21 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

2013-02-15 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Comment: according to (a)+(b), when the cat mass change in cat energy, his image change, the cat is already in life, so there is life after death / laurent.damois / ===.. On Feb 15, 12:28 pm, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:  Schrodinger's cat  and  “ The law of

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:20:12 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Stephen P. King wrote, to Craig Weinberg Baudrillard is not talking about consciousness in particular, only the sum of whatever is in the original which is not accessible in the copy. His

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:23:44 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: * *Wouldn’t Simulated Intelligence be a more appropriate term than Artificial Intelligence? Yes that euphemism could have advantages, it might make

Re: The duplicators and the restorers

2013-02-15 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: That's what you suspect, but in order for you to be correct there must be a mysterious non-physical entity that cannot be duplicated, even with advanced scientific methods. Not at all. All that is required for me

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/15/2013 11:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Feb 2013, at 22:00, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/14/2013 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Stephen P. King wrote, to Craig Weinberg Baudrillard is not talking about consciousness in particular, only the sum of

Re: Simulated Intelligence Mini-Manifesto

2013-02-15 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/15/2013 4:07 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:01:30 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 2/13/2013 9:41 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:37:08 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: On 2/13/2013 5:21 PM, Craig