Re: Belief vs Truth

2013-05-31 Thread Kim Jones
On 01/06/2013, at 3:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > All humans have many beliefs. A genuine scientist just know that those are > beliefs, and not knowledge (even if they hope their belief to be true). So > they will provides axioms/theories and derive from that, and compare with > facts, in cas

Re: Belief vs Truth

2013-05-31 Thread meekerdb
On 5/31/2013 10:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 31 May 2013, at 01:19, meekerdb wrote: On 5/30/2013 3:43 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:04:13PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: You mean unprovable? I get confused because it seems that you sometimes use Bp to mean "proves p" and

Re: Belief vs Truth

2013-05-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 May 2013, at 01:19, meekerdb wrote: On 5/30/2013 3:43 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:04:13PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: You mean unprovable? I get confused because it seems that you sometimes use Bp to mean "proves p" and sometimes "believes p" To a mathematician,

Re: The Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness

2013-05-31 Thread meekerdb
On 5/31/2013 8:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 May 2013, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote: On 5/30/2013 2:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 May 2013, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote: On 5/29/2013 12:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I don't see the analogy. I don't think consciousness can be negative, or e

Re: The Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness

2013-05-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 May 2013, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote: On 5/30/2013 2:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 May 2013, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote: On 5/29/2013 12:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I don't see the analogy. I don't think consciousness can be negative, or even that it can be measured by one dimensi