Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread Stephen Paul King
Sadly, John, many people don't get the existence question! On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Laughing stock: how can so many excellently educted and smart(est) > scientists SERIOUSLY debate on farces like flying pink elephants? > JM > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, meeke

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread John Mikes
Laughing stock: how can so many excellently educted and smart(est) scientists SERIOUSLY debate on farces like flying pink elephants? JM On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 6/11/2013 12:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 10 Jun 2013, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 6/10

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread Jason Resch
>From the video: "What we do is we use the story of math, which is very good and very complete" I think that summarizes the error of fictionalism. To believe math is a human created invention requires believing that everything we can ever know about math comes from the starting assumptions we cho

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread meekerdb
On 6/11/2013 1:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jun 2013, at 22:49, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 1:06 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: So numbers do not exist? They don't exist like elephants do. They may exist like Christmas or Sherlock Homes do. Is Sherlock Holmes a human? Please give us

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread meekerdb
On 6/11/2013 12:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jun 2013, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jun 2013, at 18:25, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 Jun 2013, at

ROADMARKERS ON THE ROAD NOT TAKEN (LEIBNIZ VS MATERIALISM)

2013-06-11 Thread Roger Clough
ROADMARKERS ON THE ROAD NOT TAKEN (LEIBNIZ VS MATERIALISM) A.EXISTENCE LEIBNIZ-- Mental (Nonphysical) + Physical MATERIALISM-- Physical, only in spacetime B. REALITY LEIBNIZ-- Only mental is real MATERIALISM- Only physical is real C. SPACETIME LEIBNIZ Exists only around physical bodies M

Leibniz's later position on "bugs within bugs" (infinite monadic nesting)

2013-06-11 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz's later position on monads : as not infinitely nested but as having a bottom, a final resting place Daniel Garber, Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad by Daniel Garber Review by: Justin E. H. Smith HOPOS: The Journal of the International Society for the Hi

Re: Leibniz's later position on monads : as not infinitely nested but as having a bottom, a final resting place

2013-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:14, Roger Clough wrote: Daniel Garber, Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad by Daniel Garber Review by: Justin E. H. Smith HOPOS: The Journal of the International Society for the History of Philosophy of Science , Vol. 1, No. 1 (Spring 2011),

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Jun 2013, at 22:49, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 1:06 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: So numbers do not exist? They don't exist like elephants do. They may exist like Christmas or Sherlock Homes do. Is Sherlock Holmes a human? Please give us your theory of human, so that we can dis

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Jun 2013, at 22:06, Stephen Paul King wrote: So numbers do not exist? Why? In most elementary (first order) theory of arithmetic, you can prove the following: Ex(x = 0) Ex(x = s(0)) Ex(x = s(s(0))) etc. Bruno On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Ju

Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Jun 2013, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 10:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Jun 2013, at 18:25, meekerdb wrote: On 6/10/2013 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 Jun 2013, at 11:20, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jun 9,

Leibniz's later position on monads : as not infinitely nested but as having a bottom, a final resting place

2013-06-11 Thread Roger Clough
Daniel Garber, Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad Leibniz: Body, Substance, Monad by Daniel Garber Review by: Justin E. H. Smith HOPOS: The Journal of the International Society for the History of Philosophy of Science , Vol. 1, No. 1 (Spring 2011), pp. 153-157 Published by: The University of Chic