Re: How to protect your computer from spying by the IRS and Eric H. Holder, Jr.

2013-06-22 Thread spudboy100
Dr. Mikes, question- Do you feel that the search engine duckduckgo really prevents spying by PRISM or do you think it may just be a 'honey trap' of sorts, or that the software is not all it is promoted as being? Would you advise virtual desktop software as a security method, or is this a wast

Re: Why do you folks keep having conferences about consciousness ? Because you have erased the subject, And Cs. = subject + object

2013-06-22 Thread spudboy100
I read Sarfatti's website, Stardrive.org, too, and I am not sure he does the Leibniz idealism as you do. He seems more attuned to whether the future, or future beings from the distant future, try to influence their past. He doesn't claim its people or our descendants, just that information is b

Re: Materialists believe apparently strange things, such as that mind is matter.

2013-06-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Jun 2013, at 22:43, John Mikes wrote: Bruno I admire you for responding to everything, no matter how irrelevant. Have a pleasant summer It is my way, I always interpret favorably, without too much attention of words, until I see the real discrepancies if there is one. I can relate

Re: Materialists believe apparently strange things, such as that mind is matter.

2013-06-22 Thread John Mikes
Bruno I admire you for responding to everything, no matter how irrelevant. Have a pleasant summer John On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 22 Jun 2013, at 03:26, Roger Clough wrote: > > > Materialists believe apparently strange things, such as that mind is > matter. > >

Re: Please read me !!!

2013-06-22 Thread John Mikes
Roger, we 'read' you too much. If you have to use this silly word (Ccness): I'm preaching over the past 21 years that it is a PROCESS. As in: RESPONSE TO RELATIONS. No Leibnitz or else, no 'subject' or 'object' no fuss. It is a basic process to the TOTALITY (not human,not fellow DNA-bearers, not ev

Re: Please read me !!!

2013-06-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Jun 2013, at 15:54, Roger Clough wrote: For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you that consciousness = subject + object but you people keep trying to solve the problem consciousness = object. Absolutely not. On the contrary, object are mental or dreamed content.

Re: Please read me !!!

2013-06-22 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you > that > consciousness = subject + object > but you people keep trying to solve the problem > consciousness = object. > If people don't read you it's because they don't see the

Please read me !!!!

2013-06-22 Thread Roger Clough
For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you that consciousness = subject + object but you people keep trying to solve the problem consciousness = object. which is useful to some extent, but is not consciousness. That's materialism and it's the wrong problem. Only by using

Please read me !!!

2013-06-22 Thread Roger Clough
For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you that consciousness = subject + object but you people keep trying to solve the problem consciousness = object. which is useful to some extent, but is not consciousness. That's materialism and it's the wrong problem. Only by using

Plrease read me !!!

2013-06-22 Thread Roger Clough
For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you that consciousness = subject + object but you people keep trying to solve the problem consciousness = object. which is useful to some extent, but is not consciousness. That's materialism and it's the wrong problem. Only by usin

Re: Materialists believe apparently strange things, such as that mind is matter.

2013-06-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Jun 2013, at 03:26, Roger Clough wrote: Materialists believe apparently strange things, such as that mind is matter. What if mind is matter ? Then mind would be quantized, and there would be particles of mind (psychon, as someone named it). Comp would be false, but some other m

Why do you folks keep having conferences about consciousness ? Because you have erased the subject, And Cs. = subject + object

2013-06-22 Thread Roger Clough
Hi JACK SARFATTI Consciousness = subject + object = subjective world + objective world Nice physics, very erudite, but If there's no subject, then there's no consciousness. But if you include a subject, the consciousness problem is trivial. You don't to keep having conferences about the "mys