On 9/20/2013 8:49 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
>>The way to completely avoid Landauer's limit is to make all operations reversible, never
lose any information so that the whole calculation could be reversed. Then there's no
entropy dumped to the environment and Landauer's limit doesn't apply.
The most interesting and less known work of Popper is the foundation of
evolutionary epistemology
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-evolutionary/
which is much more ambitious that falsacionism and mere demarcation and is
far far more interesting.
2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal
> Hi Chri
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 05:08:00PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 3:50 PM, LizR wrote:
> >It's a long time since I read "Wholeness" but I seem to recall
> >coming to the conclusion that Bohm's version was like the MWI with
> >one world singled out (somehow) to be "real".
> >
> >Or am I getti
On 21 September 2013 12:15, meekerdb wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 3:53 PM, LizR wrote:
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> On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb wrote:
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>> On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not
>> falsifiable, of course. That's a common p
Unfortunately this appears to be bs:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/09/20/136220/alien-life-story-of-dubious-provenance-goes-viral
(but what do I know!)
Best,
Telmo.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Chris de Morsella
wrote:
> Seems like the Pangea hypothesis might have gotten some evide
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:36 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 2:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:04 PM, meekerdb wrote:
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>>> Also some serious mathematicians are finitists.
>>>
>>> The Meaning of Pure Mathematics
>>> Author(s): Jan MycielskiSource: Journal of Philo
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 19 Sep 2013, at 16:51, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Bruno Marchal
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On 20 Sep 2013, at 18:36, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/20/2013 2:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:04 PM, meekerdb
wrote:
Also some serious mathematicians are finitists.
The Meaning of Pure Mathematics
Author(s): Jan MycielskiSource: Journal of Philosophical Logic,
Vol. 18, N
On 20 Sep 2013, at 19:06, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/20/2013 7:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But monkey's fetus seems able to dream of trees before seeing them
Do you have a citation for that?
Hmm... Good question.
The answer is probably yes, hopefully not in a book in a furniture
warehouse, wh
On 20 Sep 2013, at 19:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/20/2013 7:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Sep 2013, at 19:31, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
>> A computation is a process.
> I can agree with this, unless you meant a "physical process", OK.
As
On 20 Sep 2013, at 19:48, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not
falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness
"here-and-now", which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true
(except
On 20 Sep 2013, at 20:20, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, September 20, 2013 10:39:09 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Sep 2013, at 18:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:55:15 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 18 Sep 2013, at 22:11, Craig Weinberg wrote
On 20 Sep 2013, at 21:00, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
> As Rolf Landauer said "Computation is physical",
Yes, Landauer is a major proponents of that idea. If that is true,
then computationalism is false.
Bullshit.
I gave you the reference,
On 20 Sep 2013, at 21:18, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14:14 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 19 Sep 2013, at 17:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:43:23 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 18 Sep 2013, at 22:07, Craig Weinberg wrote
On 20 Sep 2013, at 22:06, meekerdb wrote:
A book that presents Bohm's QM sympathetically is "Quantum
Mechanics" by James T. Cushing.
Note that the book by David Albert, "Quantum Mechanics", which
introduces very well QM, including Everett, is also quite sympathetic
with Bohm's theory.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> And the, what is the meaning of "computation is physical"?
>
Which word didn't you understand?
> It looks to me that this consists in single out some universal system and
> declare that only running it makes things real.[...] What does mean
> "physi
Brent I believe you are correct; cellphones regularly broadcast in order to
participate in the network. A steerable antenna could cut power usage by a
large factor - maybe even by an order of magnitude - but it would need to be
able to constantly reorient itself as it gets shifted around the x,y &
Damn there goes pangea lol
I saw this yesterday on Kurzweil's blog and went back to the post to check
it and saw they had put out this UPDATE to the original, which I am pasting
below.
-Chris
UPDATE Sept. 21, 2013 1:00 EDT
In a blog post on KurzweilAI, theoretical biologist Dr. Richard Gordo
On 21 Sep 2013, at 00:50, LizR wrote:
It's a long time since I read "Wholeness" but I seem to recall
coming to the conclusion that Bohm's version was like the MWI with
one world singled out (somehow) to be "real".
Or am I getting mixed up? Was it him who had the idea of "pilot
waves" ?
On 21 Sep 2013, at 15:10, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 19 Sep 2013, at 16:51, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM,
On 9/21/2013 7:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 Sep 2013, at 18:36, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/20/2013 2:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:04 PM, meekerdb wrote:
Also some serious mathematicians are finitists.
The Meaning of Pure Mathematics
Author(s): Jan MycielskiSource: J
On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The content might be, "There is a flying pink elephant in my room." which is both
dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, "I had a conscious
thought." that too is dubitable.
We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not "I
Reversible computing seems like a fascinating possibility, but it is pretty
far off. even if economically feasible and mass producible reversible
physical logic gates and chip architectures were to be discovered today, the
inertia of the existing code base would take many decades to work its way
th
On 9/21/2013 9:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
No, memories I consider direct experiences, since they require only that we are
conscious. Indirect experiences would be experiences which we can only detect using our
body's sense organs. Indirect experiences are 3p, thus they are bodies in space, dire
Dear Russell,
(some computer-glitch prevented this post to arrive at the list for an
automatically included additional addressee's rejection yesterday.)
the Peat book seems to be on the physicist's side, just as the Hiley-book
(posthumus D.Bohm co-authored) which even pictures DB close to his 1952
Telmo:
would you have (by any chance...) a brief identification of something that
comes to your mind when speaking about " l i f e " ? (And please, forget
about the"bio" of this Earthbound Terrestrial Biosphere).
(To identify " live " is a bit easier I think.)
John M
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8
In fact the chair the mind sees is quite often a low fidelity rendition of
the chair - with by far most sense data discarded along the way, especially
if it is on the periphery of the mind's current focus. The "chair", in the
mind, is rendered only as well as it need be in order for the mind to
exp
On 9/21/2013 6:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
In fact the chair the mind sees is quite often a low fidelity rendition of the chair --
with by far most sense data discarded along the way, especially if it is on the
periphery of the mind's current focus. The "chair", in the mind, is rendered on
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 10:52:41AM -0700, Chris de Morsella wrote:
> Damn there goes pangea lol
>
Just to be persnickety, Pangaea is the name given to the last
supercontinent, ca 300Mya. What you are thinking of is panspermia, the
idea that life was seeded from space.
Cheers
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