Re: For John Clark

On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:24, meekerdb wrote: On 10/27/2013 1:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Here's a blog post that might suggest a point of contact: http://blog.sigfpe.com/2013/10/distributed-computing-with-alien.html Don't hesitate to elaborate, but this assumes QM, and does not bear on the

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: everything-list@googlegroups.com > [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:38 PM > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re:

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:45 AM, LizR wrote: > I have been under the impression that violence has been decreasing, on > average, over historical time, that is to say the proportion of people dying > violently and being injured by violence has tended to decrease over time. I > believe the number of

Re: A Post About # and *

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > Part of my approach to making new sense of the universe involves indulging > in meditations on

Re: A Post About # and *

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 06:49:08PM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > The name ‘pound sign’ seems to be fairly > mysterious. > It does not seem to be related conclusively to either the English currency > or the Avoirdupois weight. I always thought i

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On Monday, October 28, 2013 12:40:43 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > > > > On 28 October 2013 00:10, Craig Weinberg > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:11:35 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 24 October 2013 07:46, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> http://medicalxpress.

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any other religious miracle to believe in) callable "PHYSICS"? I consider it the explanation of certain phenomena (mostly with the help of math) at the level of knowledge AT such time of explanation. It was different in 2500 BC, in

Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought to be > passive wiring in the brain. But now researchers at the University of North > Carolina at Chapel Hill have shown that these dendrites do more

Fwd: Vicarious AI breaks CAPTCHA ‘Turing test’

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Re: String theory and superconductors and classical liquids...

On 28 Oct 2013, at 12:31, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno Marchal via googlegroups.com 4:53 AM (2 hours ago) to everything-list On 27 Oct 2013, at 23:26, Richard Ruquist wrote: It is derived from PA both the universes and the Metaverse. How? Richard: I say how in the abstract of the sec

Re: For John Clark

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and > often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but > clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next one. The 1-you, basically > "your" definition,

Re: For John Clark

2013/10/28 John Clark > > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and >> often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but >> clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next one. The 1-

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On 28 Oct 2013, at 15:12, John Mikes wrote: What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any other religious miracle to believe in) callable "PHYSICS"? I think Stathis was referring to any third person describable lawful laws, not relying to actual infinities or magi

Re: For John Clark

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > >> >>> I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and >>> often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but >>> clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next one. The 1-you, basically >>> "y

Re: For John Clark

2013/10/28 John Clark > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > >> >>> >>> I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next

Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain

On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought to be passive wiring in the brain. But now researchers at the University of North Carolina at Ch

Re: Vicarious AI breaks CAPTCHA ‘Turing test’

Richard, its a step up, but its not a Turing Test. When it fools you into not knowing who you had a conversation with, especially, if you didn't know if a Turing challenge was being performed, then I'd say, yes. -Original Message- From: Richard Ruquist To: everything-list Sent: Mon, O

Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain

I read, somewhere, Professor Marchal, that it was the "spindle cells" in the brain that pushed the smarter creatures on this planet into high gear, so to speak, not so much glial, unless we are describing the same thing, primates, whales, dolphins, have spindle cells, and why this makes a diffe

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:38:58 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Oct 2013, at 15:12, John Mikes wrote: > > What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any > other religious miracle to believe in) callable "PHYSICS"? > > > I think Stathis was referring to an

Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain

On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the > molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my opinion > (from diverse reading) handle to information. > > I also defend the idea t

Re: String theory and superconductors and classical liquids...

Bruno: The fact that something is enumerable does not entail that you can derive it from PA, nor that it is a necessary part of physics. Richard: You got it backwards. The CY Compact manifolds are the machine that computes because they are enumerable. It derives everything else. In particular the

Re: String theory and superconductors and classical liquids...

2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist > Bruno: The fact that something is enumerable does not entail that you can > derive it from PA, nor that it is a necessary part of physics. > > Richard: You got it backwards. The CY Compact manifolds are the machine > that computes because they are enumerable. It deriv

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

I would like to see a phase transition. But the buildup to reach the tipping point would still be incremental, which is what we are (apparently) seeing at present. Hopefully this is a sigmoidal curve... [image: Inline images 1] Once some "bioterrorist" creates a highly infectious retrovirus that

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

On 10/28/2013 3:44 PM, LizR wrote: I would like to see a phase transition. But the buildup to reach the tipping point would still be incremental, which is what we are (apparently) seeing at present. Hopefully this is a sigmoidal curve... Inline images 1 Once some "bioterrorist" creates a high

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

You mean "too" nice, I assume :) That's debatable. For example, research shows that countries with negative population growth are ones that have taken equal rights for women seriously. So being nice to the female half of the population leads to less babies being born. Also, a lot of religious fund

Re: A Post About # and *

That article is written by an American, so I wouldn't expect him to know about the pound sign! (Also, I wouldn't think that American style keyboards are used worldwide with computers. They aren't used in the UK, or weren't last time I was there, and are most likely not used in countries where the

Re: Vicarious AI breaks CAPTCHA ‘Turing test’

Grrr. This means that a computer programme is better at passing the Turing test than I am. On 29 October 2013 07:10, wrote: > Richard, its a step up, but its not a Turing Test. When it fools you into > not knowing who you had a conversation with, especially, if you didn't know > if a Turing cha

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On 29 October 2013 01:12, John Mikes wrote: > What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any > other religious miracle to believe in) callable "PHYSICS"? I consider it the > explanation of certain phenomena (mostly with the help of math) at the level > of knowledge AT such

RE: For John Clark

Hi Jason >> Right but when you refer to "the experience" or "chris peck's experiences", >> that is speaking in the third person. It should make no difference to your argument at all. In fact Bruno's step 3 is written in the third person too. You're confusing how the set up is described with w

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On Monday, October 28, 2013 8:18:04 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > On 29 October 2013 01:12, John Mikes > > wrote: > > What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any > > other religious miracle to believe in) callable "PHYSICS"? I consider it > the > > explanation of

RE: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Weinberg Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:23 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it On Sunday, Octo

RE: Douglas Hofstadter Article

But we are also perfecting our tools of violence as well. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 5:07 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article On 10/27/2013

Re: String theory and superconductors and classical liquids...

So matter is just maya-illusion. That is really religion- right? On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist > >> Bruno: The fact that something is enumerable does not entail that you >> can derive it from PA, nor that it is a necessary part of ph

Re: A Post About # and *

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:52:38PM +1300, LizR wrote: > That article is written by an American, so I wouldn't expect him to know > about the pound sign! > > (Also, I wouldn't think that American style keyboards are used worldwide > with computers. They aren't used in the UK, or weren't last time I

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

I know, I know. But there does seem to be a historical decline in violence, on average and over a long time, which I've heard about from various sources, the latest being Stephen Pinker. This is probably happening for a number of reasons. One is perhaps improved communications, but probably more im

Re: A Post About # and *

"Predominant" I can believe. If there's one thing the Americans are good at, it's selling people stuff. On 29 October 2013 16:18, Russell Standish wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:52:38PM +1300, LizR wrote: > > That article is written by an American, so I wouldn't expect him to know > > abou

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On Monday, October 28, 2013 10:10:45 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote: > > > > > > *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everyth...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Craig Weinberg > *Sent:* Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:23 PM > *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Neural act

Re: Douglas Hofstadter Article

Perfecting may mean making them more precise so that we kill two people accidentally for every one we kill on purpose, instead of killing 20. Brent On 10/28/2013 7:11 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: But we are also perfecting our tools of violence as well. *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.co

Re: Neural activity in the brain is harder to disrupt when we are aware of it

On 29 October 2013 12:54, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Monday, October 28, 2013 8:18:04 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: >> >> On 29 October 2013 01:12, John Mikes wrote: >> > What do you call "ANY PHYSICS"? is there a "God given" marvel (like any >> > other religious miracle to believe in) callable "

Re: String theory and superconductors and classical liquids...

Yeah and a chicken is a dog. Le 29 oct. 2013 03:41, "Richard Ruquist" a écrit : > So matter is just maya-illusion. > That is really religion- right? > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist >> >>> Bruno: The fact that something is enu