Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 19/06/2017 1:17 pm, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List wrote: On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > Jun 2017, at 12:15 pm, Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote: > > That sounds remarkably like the "many minds" interpretation of

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 19/06/2017 12:35 pm, Kim Jones wrote: Jun 2017, at 12:15 pm, Bruce Kellett wrote: That sounds remarkably like the "many minds" interpretation of quantum mechanics. This is disfavoured by most scientists because it leaves the physics of the billions of years before the emergence of the firs

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > Jun 2017, at 12:15 pm, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > That sounds remarkably like the "many minds" interpretation of quantum > mechanics. This is disfavoured by most scientists because it leaves the > physic

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

> Jun 2017, at 12:15 pm, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > That sounds remarkably like the "many minds" interpretation of quantum > mechanics. This is disfavoured by most scientists because it leaves the > physics of the billions of years before the emergence of the first > "conscious" creature unreso

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 12:48:51PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: Here Scott Aaronson addresses the "pretty-hard problem of consciousness" http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1951 His idea of "participation in the Arrow of Time" is a narrower and mo

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 12:48:51PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote: > Here Scott Aaronson addresses the "pretty-hard problem of consciousness" > > http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1951 > > His idea of "participation in the Arrow of Time" is a narrower and > more technical version of my idea that co

Re: AI

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Re: A correction

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 Stathis Papaioannou wrote: ​> ​ > I bet more people know who Molly Bloom is than could explain what a quark > is. > ​I'll take that bet! ​ ​They ​may not be able to r enormalized ​the ​ quark-antiquark Hamiltonian ​ but they've heard the word before, James Joyce ​ on the o

Re: AI

256 Shades of Gray On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > I'm having my computer write a book about computer experience. It's called > "On the Line". Unfortunately it's very dull...no sex. > > Brent > > > On 6/18/2017 4:47 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> The "writing books" categ

Re: AI

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Re: AI

Oh the AI/political comment on Don et all. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Jun 18, 2017 10:25 AM Subject: Re: AI On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 spudboy100 via Everything List everythin

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

On 6/18/2017 3:43 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: No, but it does mean that a quantum computer can have the computational power of a lot of Turing machines acting in parallel, and it is normal to ask "why?", and be unsatisfied with a theory that does not answer this question. I have come across an i

Re: A correction

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 at 1:39 am, John Clark wrote: > Some Bozo named John K Clark wrote: > > "*Joyce's character Molly Bloom is almost completely unknown to the human > race as is every word Joyce ever wrote*". > > ​Clark should have added "except for the word quark". Joyce invented the > word, al

A correction

Some Bozo named John K Clark wrote: "*Joyce's character Molly Bloom is almost completely unknown to the human race as is every word Joyce ever wrote*". ​Clark should have added "except for the word quark". Joyce invented the word, although certainly not the concept. John K Clark​ -- You recei

Re: AI

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: ​> ​ > Yeah Obama was terrific at arming with the North Koreans and the > Ayatollahs with their nuke capabilities (The ayatollahs who Obama wuv'd, do > trades with the Norks). ​What the hell are you t

Re: AI

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: ​> ​ > T > ​​ > he "writing books" category seems a bit silly. Which books? ​I interpret that to mean write a book that a significant number of people actually want to read, and not just because of ​ ​the novelty of being a book written by a

Re: AI

Yeah Obama was terrific at arming with the North Koreans and the Ayatollahs with their nuke capabilities (The ayatollahs who Obama wuv'd, do trades with the Norks). And, look how much the community organizer helped with Chicago and Baltimore streets, crime style. All, a brimming success. But hey

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

The Michael Cuffaro associated paper is a thesis of David Deutsch at Oxford from 20 years ago (and more). Deutsch also holds that we cannot in principle contact our own past, but an exact, parallel Earth is doable (in theory), so you can assassinate your clone's grandfather. For me, my imaginary

Re: AI

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​> ​ > Artificial products come to dominate a market when the natural product is > in short supply. > They missed this one: AI will perform better as President = 2017 ​A rock​ ​would be​ a better President than Trump, true it wouldn't do any

Re: AI

The "writing books" category seems a bit silly. Which books? The technical manual of a programming language? Or something like "On the Road"? And how can a non-human entity be better than humans at writing about the human experience? And even if it is, doesn't it just become a deception? Telmo. O

Re: substitution level

Thanks both for the references! Best, Telmo. On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:46 AM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:34:44AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> KURTZ S. A., 1983, On the Random Oracle Hypothesis, Information and >> Control, 57, pp. 40-47. >> > > And I raise you wi

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

> No, but it does mean that a quantum computer can have the > computational power of a lot of Turing machines acting in parallel, > and it is normal to ask "why?", and be unsatisfied with a theory that > does not answer this question. > > > I have come across an interesting paper that discusses the