Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 21/06/2017 4:03 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For me, all such irreversible processes are related to conscious entities in some way. Whilst agre

Re: “Could a Quantum Computer Have Subjective Experience?”

2017-06-20 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:15:31PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 19/06/2017 10:23 am, Russell Standish wrote: > >I know Scott wouldn't go as far as me. For me, all such irreversible > >processes are related to conscious entities in some way. Whilst > >agreeing that Geiger counters are unlikely t

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
It depends on how fast automation of jobs occurs? We obvious can make superb robots for any sort of physical labor, as exemplified by the Boston Dynamics robot fleet. What is missing-as with all electric cars- is a reliable power storage format. There seems to be tons or great engineering being

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The millennials, whom I interact with, Professor, believe that there will > be a Universal Basic Income (UBI) to rescue them, if they are > "dis-employed," by automation. I, of course, oppose, ​Mr.

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes, unless the 3rd gen robots also purchase and sell goods and services. "Humans not welcome!" Ok, thanks ;-) -Original Message- From: Hans Moravec To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent: Tue, Jun 20, 2017 7:20 pm Subject: Re: AI and social destabilization On 170620, at 6:55 P

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread Hans Moravec
> On 170620, at 6:55 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: > > Will UBI triumph Can’t sell if no one is able to buy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The millennials, whom I interact with, Professor, believe that there will be a Universal Basic Income (UBI) to rescue them, if they are "dis-employed," by automation. I, of course, oppose, because I am cynical enough to be aware of how billionaires decide things, away from journalists and closer

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Well compared to AI which was the original topic before the Party members politicize thing (as they do as meth head craves speed), AI will potentially see us as taking things in tiny, discrete, units. Swerving back to your ideology, again, like a lot of bright peeps your ideology kills your int

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread Hans Moravec
> On 170620, at 5:57 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > And don't get too comfortable because you're not one of those billionaires. > I'd guess that everyone on this list is in the top 0.002% of the world wealth > distribution. > > Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread Brent Meeker
On 6/20/2017 1:10 PM, John Clark wrote: Jobs are already being lost because of the improvements in AI and it's not just unskilled workers that are in trouble. Don't think that because you're so smart a AI could never do your job better than you can so the AI revolution can't effect you person

AI and social destabilization

2017-06-20 Thread John Clark
Jobs are already being lost because of the improvements in AI and it's not just unskilled workers that are in trouble. Don't think that because you're so smart a AI could never do your job better than you can so the AI revolution can't effect you personally ​;​ in March of this year Blackrock, the

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Cupcake, I am fairly well read, in anthropology as well... that's not the issue here.  You don't grasp what the issue here really is, because your simpletons worldview is constrained to the tiny little fishbowl that your mind swims.. . around and around in going over and over, the same tedio

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
So basically you hate what I say, and thus, do the ad hominem boogie-which is Joe Leftist mentality to the max. I say this so we both get this stated precisely. As Patron Saint Homer Simpson might say, "Aw! Cupcakes!" Keep on keep'in on as you like, because human nature is human nature-read ant

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
The science of anthropology no less!  Idiocy, such as the offal you serve warm is not somehow transformed into a wholesome diet by making a naked appeal to authority, such as you now attempt. Your stream of redneck babble, peppered here and there with sciency sounding sub phrases remains as

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
It's how the science of anthropology breaks it down. The people we side with, identify with, the flaws on our own teams that we ignore. It's all a part of being a primate, speaking of monkeys and their asses. Your dems will play things to the max, because, again, it's good for team spirit, and m

Re: AI

2017-06-20 Thread 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
Dude, what's it with you and "teams"... are you some kind of social insect... channeling the hive mind? My team, your team... cupcake, the fishbowl you call thinking is about as thoughtful as a monkey biting its ass. On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:46 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: