Re: Cosmological Red Shift

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 3:53:28 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 2:40:12 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:59:16PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 3:04:42 PM UTC,

Re: Cosmological Red Shift

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 2:40:12 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:59:16PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 3:04:42 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > How is it distinguished from red and poss

Re: Cosmological Red Shift

2017-12-08 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 12:59:16PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 3:04:42 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > How is it distinguished from red and possibly blue shifting due to > > relative motion of distant galaxies? TIA, AG > > > > I meant to

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 9/12/2017 11:27 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:43 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives m

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 9/12/2017 11:49 am, smitra wrote: On 09-12-2017 00:03, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/12/2017 4:21 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal mot

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 4:49 PM, smitra wrote: If this were not true then each single conscious experience would contain in it information about such things as the exact  number of atoms in the Earth, Sun etc. etc. That sounds like a reductio against the comp theory of consciousness. Brent -- You rec

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 4:55 PM, smitra wrote: On 09-12-2017 01:40, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2017 4:27 PM, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:43 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 20

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 4:49 PM, smitra wrote: It's not irrelevant if you don't have the information that locates you in a sector where the uncertainties are indeed small enough. You have to start with the complete state in the bird's view, and then consider the sector where you have some definite infor

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread smitra
On 09-12-2017 01:40, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/8/2017 4:27 PM, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:43 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread smitra
On 09-12-2017 00:03, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/12/2017 4:21 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives momenta of magnitudes such

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 4:27 PM, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:43 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives

Re: cosmic big rip

2017-12-08 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 11:46:07 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:43, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23631550-600-dark-energy-is-mutating-with-grave-consequences-for-the-cosmos/ > > This is interesting and a bit disturbing. Phan

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread smitra
On 08-12-2017 03:38, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/7/2017 4:43 PM, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives momenta of magnitudes such that the quan

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread smitra
On 08-12-2017 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:43 am, smitra wrote: On 08-12-2017 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives momenta of magnitudes such that the qu

Re: Is AI really a threat to mankind?

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:54:51 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 08 Dec 2017, at 03:37, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 1:42:01 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12/7/2017 3:19 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, December 7, 201

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 9/12/2017 4:21 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives momenta of magnitudes such that the quantum uncertainties are negligib

Re: [math-fun] Deep Mind crushes chess

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
I can access the site on Chrome. I do think AI could be a threat. Can't discount the anxiety of two geniuses; Hawking and Musk. AG On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 10:09:07 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hugely amazing if true. Can you elaborate? I can't access the site, maybe > because I

Re: [math-fun] Deep Mind crushes chess

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
Hugely amazing if true. Can you elaborate? I can't access the site, maybe because I am using TOR as my browser (which doesn't track where I browse). AG On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 12:15:10 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > Quite incredible, the new version is entirely self-taught from nothing but

Re: Cosmological Red Shift

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 3:04:42 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > How is it distinguished from red and possibly blue shifting due to > relative motion of distant galaxies? TIA, AG > I meant to ask how one distinguishes the Doppler shift (red or blue) from the Cosmological shift (re

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread David Nyman
On 8 Dec 2017 18:30, "Brent Meeker" wrote: On 12/8/2017 2:09 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker >>> wrote: >>> On 12/6/2017 1:46

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 2:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/7/2017 1:01 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want to ref

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 2:09 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/8/2017 12:01 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 11:54:39 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: On 8/12/2017 10:40 am, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes, but only if the phase are

Re: Is AI really a threat to mankind?

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2017, at 03:37, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 1:42:01 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 12/7/2017 3:19 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 9:47:42 PM UTC, Brent wrote: When I took a series of classes in Artificial Intelliegence a

Re: cosmic big rip

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:43, Lawrence Crowell wrote: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23631550-600-dark-energy-is-mutating-with-grave-consequences-for-the-cosmos/ This is interesting and a bit disturbing. Phantom energy means the vacuum energy density is increasing with time. This means t

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:40, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Dec 2017, at 00:12, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 4:01:31 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Dec 2017, at 11:32, agrays..

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2017, at 00:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 8/12/2017 3:31 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Dec 2017, at 12:19, Bruce Kellett wrote: But as I pointed out, thermal motion gives momenta of magnitudes such that the quantum uncertainties are negligible compared to the thermal randomness.

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Dec 2017, at 11:09, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Bre

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Dec 2017, at 18:36, David Nyman wrote: On 7 Dec 2017 15:08, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want to re

Cosmological Red Shift

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
How is it distinguished from red and possibly blue shifting due to relative motion of distant galaxies? TIA, AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread David Nyman
On 8 Dec 2017 03:31, "Brent Meeker" wrote: On 12/7/2017 5:05 PM, David Nyman wrote: On 7 December 2017 at 21:49, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/7/2017 9:36 AM, David Nyman wrote: > > > > On 7 Dec 2017 15:08, "Bruno Marchal" wrote: > > > On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On

Re: cosmic big rip

2017-12-08 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:49:42 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/7/2017 3:43 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23631550-600-dark-energy-is-mutating-with-grave-consequences-for-the-cosmos/ > > This is interesting and a bit disturbing. Phantom energ

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/7/2017 1:01 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want to refer to the e

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-08 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 07 Dec 2017, at 10:01, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want to refer to

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 8/12/2017 7:01 pm, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 11:54:39 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: On 8/12/2017 10:40 am, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes, but only if the phase are indee

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 8/12/2017 6:26 pm, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 11:50:41 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: On 1/12/2017 10:43 am, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:20:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, November 30, 2017

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 11:54:39 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > On 8/12/2017 10:40 am, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 4:44:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes, but only if the phase are indeed different at each slits, I would >> say. The interfer