On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> * Most likely they evolved like us with neuro-networks adapted from some
> natural condition and eventually as they progress they find they can no
> longer manage things.*
>
When things get complicate
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 at 9:30 am, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Scott Aaronson has an interesting blog entry on quantum interpretations:
>
> https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3628
>
> He seems somewhat conflicted over which interpretation to believe.
> "Anyway, as I said, MWI is the best interpret
On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 3:15:43 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Lawrence Crowell <
> goldenfield...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> >
>> Human expansion into virtual space is far greater than outer space. In
>> fact with the end of the shuttle program we may hav
Scott Aaronson has an interesting blog entry on quantum interpretations:
https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3628
He seems somewhat conflicted over which interpretation to believe.
"Anyway, as I said, MWI is the best interpretation if we leave ourselves
out of the picture. what would
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Telmo Menezes
wrote:
> >
> the argument ignores the possibility that civilizations
> might be able to thrive for a very long time without ever expanding
> much beyond their original planet.
I'm sorry but that argument just makes no sense. Unless the laws of
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Human expansion into virtual space is far greater than outer space. In
> fact with the end of the shuttle program we may have passed what might be
> called peak astronaut. The number of astronauts
On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 2:35:51 AM UTC-6, telmo_menezes wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Lawrence Crowell
> > wrote:
> > Hard emergence is either something really miraculous and thus not really
> in
> > the domain of physics, or it is something we might call a miracle
> becau
On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 2:21:15 AM UTC-6, telmo_menezes wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:25 PM, John Clark > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Right, ET might prefer to become a
> > navel gazer
> > and spend eternity in the electronic equivalent of a crack house, but
> even
> > if 99% chose t
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Lawrence Crowell
wrote:
> Hard emergence is either something really miraculous and thus not really in
> the domain of physics, or it is something we might call a miracle because we
> really do not understand it.
For me, emergence refers to the arisal of new propert
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:25 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Telmo Menezes
> wrote:
>
>> >
>> To summarize the argument:
>>
>> 1. A sufficiently advanced civilization is bound to become a galactic
>> civilization;
>> 2. We do not observe a galactic civilization;
>> 3. If ot
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