Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 7:15 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 2:05:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrot

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 2:05:04 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 6:35 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:2

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 1:08:55 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 5:56 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On

Re: Entanglement

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:50:41 AM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> *But

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 2:24:11 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the >> measurement, there is a

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 10:41:07 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to make

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 3:41 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to make correct infer

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:53:18 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the >>> equations to make correct inferences? >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> * It's an ostensible contradiction with

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 2:48 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the equations to make correct inferences? Brent * It's an ostensible contradiction with relativity that information transfer cannot be inst

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:28:02 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 12:24 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *But since the momentum of either particle doe

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 12:24 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS har

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the > measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS hard to understand. In > fact, I doubt anyone does understan

Re: Mind Uploading

On 4/13/2018 7:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Your theory doesn't explain it without "adding more magic" either.  You start by assuming that certain computations must instantiate consciousness. You confuse UDA and AUDA. The UDA (Universal Dovetailer Argument) assumes mechanism, which is the st

Re: Entanglement

On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS hard to understand. In fact, I doubt anyone does understand it. AG * What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able t

Re: Mind Uploading

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > *You are confusing* > *​* [...]​ > ​Horseshit ​ ​fron bullshit? ​ ​> ​ > *The follower of Aristotle thought* > ​[,,,]​ > I don't give a damn what the followers of Aristotle The Ignorant thought. ​> *​* > *Plato was skeptical* >

Re: Entanglement

Bruce: 'As has been explained, entanglement is the consequence of any interaction whatsoever. Measurement is just a particular kind of interaction, one that is controlled and monitored, but otherwise not special.' It seems (to me) also interesting the scheme to create, "ex post", distant enta

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 11 Apr 2018, at 21:02, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 4/10/2018 11:44 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 11 Apr 2018, at 01:29, John Clark >> > wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Bruno Marchal >> > wrote: >>> >>> ​>>

Re: Mind Uploading

> On 11 Apr 2018, at 18:30, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:44 AM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> If a theory can only explain how 6% of the matter/energy in the universe > >> works then it can't be fundamental. > > > ?I don’t see why. That simply do

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:48:11 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce w

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:48:11 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce w

Re: Entanglement

From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote:

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:02:03 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> From: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:12:58 PM UTC,

Re: Entanglement

From: mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: From: On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:12:58 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Entanglement

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10:52 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > From: > > > > On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:56:40 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> From: >> >> >> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:12:58 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 9:26:53 PM UTC